I hope we respond by putting tariffs on American pickups. Democratic nations need to cut the US out of the global economy entirely until they learn how to act right.

Apologies if there’s any weirdness in this post, it’s my first one.

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    “Omg! Australia is attacking the US!” <- How our (US) media covers this, probably.

    What is our dumbfuck president claiming for an excuse to tariff another one of our Five Eyes allies? What is the perceived slight that has set off this unstable man-baby POTUS?

    (Did not read the article… assuming answers can be found there.)

    (Edit: have now read the article)

    President Trump’s announcement was made a day after Australia’s Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Richard Marles met with American Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth.

    ‘That this advice has been given the day after our Deputy Prime Minister was in Washington to hand over billions of dollars to secure the AUKUS submarine deal is particularly troubling,’ Mr Willox said.

    This is all they said about the potential motivations. They had a meeting with our Christian Nationalist unqualified news commentator defense secretary, made a deal where Australia is paying the US for submarines. Now you all are getting Art-of -the-Deal’d. I would call it extortion and an act of war.

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    Aight boys, time to start putting it back in the ground.

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    I suspect these announcements by Trump are nothing but stock market scams with a whole bunch of insider trading going on.

    Trump removed tariffs from Mexico and Canada after a few days. We’ll see what happens with this

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      He removed them for nothing. He was tricked. Both Canada and Mexico agreed to do things they were already going to do and Trump folded.

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        USian here. It really didn’t matter - his friendly media repeated the lie that he forced those bad old countries to beef up drug and immigration enforcement via his big strong negotiation style. The fact that it’s nonsense has no bearing on the political reality here, sadly.

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        there were stock market movements based on what Trump said

        people who have insider knowledge would be able to make a lot of money on that

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    Heyyyyyy welcome to the “being threatened by the USA because Trump felt like it” club!

    -EU + Denmark, Canada, Mexico, Colombia, Panama.

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    I think we can all do something. I know our economy is tiny, but Australia buys way more from the US than they buy from us… and you know what a big chunk of that is? Services. Some of those are hard to shift but others are easier.

    I’ve hosted all my websites and registered all my domains in the US for over 20 years.

    That changed yesterday and I’m transferring everything over to Australia.

    For Fedi, look at Australian servers where you can. Subscriptions? Fuck off Netflix et al. Get out of Google as much as you can. If you’re here you are probably already out of FB and Reddit, but leave anything else you can that is US based and try to support AU or EU.

    Don’t buy US foods, cars, or technology where possible (let’s face it, most of those are crap anyway).

    And you know what, most of the US based internet is shit now too. It was fun 20 years ago, but consistent enshittification has been the worst in the US. At least the EU is trying to fight it.

    Yes our economy is tiny, but we can change more than you might think, and as the rest of the world probably will do similar, the US won’t be quite as well off as it thinks it is.

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      A lot of US brands are just relabeled Chinese stuff with a markup. They get us badly on financial, services and IP. I am down to one streaming service and I only have one US based hosting service left which I will be moving to Australian owned hosting soon. My PCs run open source except for games. I will probably keep buying Steam games but it isn’t realistic to totally cut out US business. Things like PayPal and Netflix are easy to do without.

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      Canadian here. This is exactky what we are doing. Everything we can not to support anything “America”. Welcome to the fuck them club.

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        As an American, this is wacky to read–but I’m fully in support. What can i say, i think there’s some good ones here but not enough to balance out all the shite ones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        It was a good run, i guess? Lol

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          Sorry for the good ones but we have to start thinking about ourselves now more than ever.

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          I’m sorry for the good ones, but the current actions are a huge threat to democracy worldwide, and while I think the puppet masters expect this response and globalisation is already in the process of collapsing (read The End of the World Is just the Beginning - Mapping the Collapse of Globalisation by Peter Zeihan) we can try and avoid this fate elsewhere. It is NOT inevitable that the tech bros rule us all as serfs, but getting away from Big Tech, means cutting off the US out of our digital lives as much as we can.

          Everyone here is ahead of the game 👍

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        I got one over the weekend for making an off the cuff joke about punching members of a hate group for ‘inciting violence’. Context and nuance is too hard for them, I guess. I spent too much time there anyway. Happily deleted my entire account, as I have also done for Facebook. This place seems ok, if a little underpopulated right now.

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          Haha, I’m just operating under the assumption that we’re all Reddit rejects and this place is likely to get quite a bit busier in the near future. 🤣

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      If anyone wants advice on how to ditch Netflix VERY painlessly look into stremio+torrentio addon. Optionally pay a minuscule amount (<$5/month) to real Debrid to make it faster and more private (if you’re worried about torrenting) but I find it perfectly fine as is myself.

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      We’re talking about Albo here, he’ll apologise and ask if Trump can double it.

      Dutton would offer the country to be annexed mind you.

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      Unless China gets control of our mining companies and then we lose that strategic advantage.

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    I hope we respond by putting tariffs on American pickups.

    I kinda don’t want this. Because I want those yank tanks taxed and/or regulated regardless, because it’s the right thing to do, and I don’t want progress towards that to be undermined by being seen to get caught up in a bullshit trade war.

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    You know that despite how everything panned out out in Canada. Albo is going to immediately fold and spend his final days in office grovelling.

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    The only problem is you used MSN which is using the Daily Mail as a source? An American source using a UK (garbage dump of a) source to report on Australia? :\

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    I remember reading that the government was hoping that because we run a trade deficit with the yanks they wouldn’t do this. Look forward to that just being the assumption and the government having done 0 planning.

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      What can you really do to prepare for something like this? Specifically against the US which is:

      Iron Ore to China: China was the dominant market for Australian iron ore, accounting for around 85% of exports. This amounted to approximately AU$115 billion in value in 2023, with over 736 million tonnes shipped in 2022

      vs

      Steel to America: United States: Exports of steel to the U.S. were much higher, totaling US$237.51 million in 2023. Key products included flat-rolled and semi-finished steel2.

      https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-much-iron-ore-and-steel-do-5bWZvTZeRqSNQSlFbu1MBg

      I’d like to know more about just how big our steel industry is apart of the exports pie especially compared to iron ore but I suspect we may be blowing this tariff out of proportion

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        It might be small biccies compared to iron ore to China, but the optics are really bad, and when Australia is included in the tariffs, then psychologically we are siding with Everyone Else in this new US vs Democracy fight. Because that’s what the US (tech bros, who are now in charge) are orchestrating: a direct attack on democracy.

        So yes, the numbers are small compared to other countries, but the attack is ideological, and real.