• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I called this shit out like a year ago. It’s the end of any viable online searching having much truth to it. All we’ll have left is youtube videos from project farm to trust.

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      It kinda seems like the end of the Google era. What will we search Google for when the results are all crap? This is the death gasps of the internet I/we grew up with.

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        Remember when you could type a vague plot of a film you’d heard about into Google and it’d be the first result?

        Nah doesn’t work anymore

        Saw a trailer for a french film so I searched “french film 2024 boys live in woods seven years”

        Google - 2024 BEST FRENCH FILMS/TOP TEN FRENCH FILMS YOU MUST SEE THIS YEAR/ALL TIME BEST FRENCH MOVIES

        Absolute fucking gash

        I’ve not been too impressed with Kagi search, but at least the top result there was “Frères 2024”

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          Remember when you could type a vague plot of a film you’d heard about into Google and it’d be the first result?

          I honestly don’t remember this at all. I remember priding myself on my “google-fu” and how to search it to get what i, or other people, needed. Which usually required understanding the precise language that you would need to use, not something vague. But over the years it’s gotten harder and harder, and now I get frustrated with how hard it has become to find something useful. I’ve had to go back to finding places I trust for information and looking through them.

          Although, ironically, I can do what you’re talking about with ai now.

      • Wiz@midwest.social
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        Maybe web rings of the 90s were not such a bad idea! Let’s bring 'em back!

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        I’m feeling myself old and I’m 28.

        Cause in my early childhood in 2003-2007 we would resort to search engines only when we couldn’t find something by better (but more manual and social) means.

        Because - mwahahaha - most of the results were machine-generated crap.

        So I actually feel very uplift due to people promising the Web to get back to norm in this sense.

  • Mastengwe@lemm.ee
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    AI Is Poisoning Reddit to Promote Products and Game Google With ‘Parasite SEO’

    FTFY

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      Ai is a tool. It can be used for good and it can be used for poison. Just because you see it being used for poison more often doesn’t mean you should be against ai. Maybe lay the blame on the people using it for poison

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    I don’t understand how Lemmy/Mastodon will handle similar problems. Spammers crafting fake accounts to give AI generated comments for promotions

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      The same way it’s handled on Reddit: moderators.

      Some will get through and sit for a few days but eventually the account will make itself obvious and get removed.

      It’s not exactly difficult to spot these things. If an account is spending the majority of its existence on a social media site talking about products, even if they add some AI generated bullshit here and there to make it seem like it’s a regular person, it’s still pretty obvious.

      If the account seems to show up pretty regularly in threads to suggest the same things, there’s an indicator right there.

      Hell, you can effectively bait them by making a post asking for suggestions on things.

      They also just tend to have pretty predictable styles of speak, and never fail to post the URL with their suggestion.

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    Correction - AI is poisoning everything when it is not regulated and moderated.

    Reddit has been poisoning itself for a while, what’s the difference? Just AI borrowing from the shithead behavior?

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    I just consider any comment after Jun 2023 to be compromised. Anyone who stayed after that date either doesn’t have a clue, or is sponsored content.

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    yeah, the internet is doomed to be unusable if AI just keeps getting more insidious like this

    yet more companies tie themselves to online platforns, websites, and other models of operation depending on being always connected.

    maybe the world needs a reboot, just get rid of it all and start from scratch

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      maybe the world needs a reboot, just get rid of it all and start from scratch

      That would destroy all the old good vintage stuff and leave us with machines that immediately fill the vacant space with pure trash.

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        rapture but with technology would be pretty funny

        save the good old stuff and burn the rest

    • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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      Peer-to-peer systems? Systems where you have to do physically be at the location to get data maybe, so cyber cafe like things. Or back to the old system and go to the regular bars, repair cafés or hobby places.

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        The usefulness of Captchas is being destroyed by “AI” too. And ironically they were used to train certain types of Machine Learning.

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      Synchronous spaces.

      Social VR does not have a lot of the ills of social media. You only have to deal with people much like you would IRL.

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    Well that’s certainly one way for your brand to lose a lot of respect once it becomes apparent. Much like I when want to lose respect for myself, I use Chum brand dog food. Chum, it’s still food, alright?

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    Well, that was the last bit of usefulness I used to get out of google. I’ve been on yahoo for a while now

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    That’s just for small players. Big corps probably been doing it for years.

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    I still haven’t seen a use of AI that doesn’t serve state or corporate interests first, before the general public. AI medical diagnostics comes the closest, but that’s being leveraged to justify further staffing reductions, not an additional check.

    The AI-captcha wars are on, and no matter who wins we lose.