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      His only talent is convincing the wealthy to invest in his schemes. I don’t understand how he does it, hearing him speak is painful.

      He got lucky with Tesla becoming a meme stock.

      SpaceX is being run by a competent engineer while its competitor, Blue Origin is being run by a megalomaniac. This is possibly Musks only competent move in business.

      The rest of his ventures have been failures. To any one not blinded by greed, it’s clear he long ago peaked. He’s playing a shell game now but people will happily invest hoping luck will strike again.

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        There’s an old tweet that explains it well, I’m sure you’ve seen it.

        (Paraphrased) “Elon Musk talked about cars. I don’t know anything about cars so when people said he was a genius, I figured he must be a genius”

        Investors don’t know shit about the stuff they’re investing in and Musk sounds really smart when you don’t know anything about the thing he’s speaking on.

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        For Tesla and SpaceX, they attracted the top engineers because they were cool bleeding edge problems to solve that actually aligned with idealist goals in the industries.

        Musk used that genuine motivation and overworked people into burnout, and took credit for others hard work.

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        His only talent is convincing the wealthy to invest in his schemes. I don’t understand how he does it, hearing him speak is painful.

        That’s not fair, he’s also really good at making promises to the public to secure incentives and public funding and then fucking everyone over

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          The real trick there is how he didn’t get sued.

          The SEC has held him more accountable than the share holders

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        To his credit SpaceX was at least a correct recognition that the dominant space launch companies were just a cartel milking federal funding for as much as possible. That sector is so stagnant that ULA still hasn’t blinked at the massive success of first stage reusability.

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          When you’re a government agency, you have to play things super safe. When you’re an independent company, you can do whatever you want. And if you fail, no one cares. If the government agency fails, it’s hell to pay.

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          Well with SpaceX, there are now 2 big launch companies for the USA.

          and given how the gov likes to spread contracts around there isnt a real existential incentive to do much.

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    I’m picturing him walking into Tesla’s offices, going over to the engineers, saying, “make the horn make a fart noise,” and leaving, thinking he’s brilliant.

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    I’ve never heard of pigeon management but I have heard something similar described as playing chess with a pigeon as someone who “knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board then struts aroind like they’ve won”.

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    Can’t we all agree to just ignore him? Like stop posting about him and quit Twitter? He thrives off negative attention.

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      No people can’t because they’re addicted to outrage-porn and being degraded (humiliation fetish).

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      As much as I hate them, I would wager that the majority of CEOs are more educated, smarter and have a better understanding of their business than Elon “Failed Upward” Musk.

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        CEOs are more educated, smarter and have a better understanding of their business

        You haven’t met that many of them, have you?

        I have - the difference between the ones I met and the likes of Elon is that none of the ones I met had any interest in being celebrities. That’s the only difference - their institutionalized incompetence was the exact same.

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      As much as I dislike the guy, so did he. He popularized EVs, brought a viable space program back to the west and even neuralink seems promising for people with certain disabilities.

      And no, that doesn’t excuse hyperloop, twitter, Tesla‘s broken promises, him being a questionable human to put it mildly, etc. but claiming he contributed nothing is a very black/white thinking.

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        He really tries hard to outweigh anything good. It seems like a mission of some sort: Let’s do the cool things and smear it all in shit of my personality

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        Viable space program? Starlink is shitting all over our orbit, Artemis is fucked because SpaceX needs 12 or more launches to refuel one flight to the moon. Additionally the whole development is like tesla full self driving, always promise for next year and don’t deliver. The moon was to be reached in 2024 and as of now SpaceX is celebrating failed test launches as win… Years behind schedule…

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          I didn’t say spacex was perfect. However, we were relying entirely on the Russians to get astronauts to and from the ISS since 2011 until spaceX built the crew dragon.

          That musk is exaggerating everything they do is a very different story but that’s also not what I’m talking about.

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    We called this the “swoop and poop” in a previous job of mine. Definitely not something encouraged or enjoyed.