• FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml
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    I can confirm this is not just in the land of burgers. Back in the war from October to December, I fleed to Germany and went to school there, and the stuff I saw where absolutely disgusting: kids were using ipads (ibads) given to them by the school, the computers ran windows on them, and every time even a single task came up, they would directly resort to artificial unintelligence. When the “ceasefire” started and I finally went back to Lebanon, most of the kids were using Artificial unintelligence to write their essays as well. I don’t blame these kids, they don’t know better, they don’t know how artificial unintelligence is trained from the stolen work of the people, they don’t know what non-free software is, and they don’t know how these devices/software are tracking their every move. It’s up to the school’s to teach them such and schools are doing a terrible job both in America and internationally.

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    If we decide to ban smartphones from schools we should ban them from work too. I’m supposed to be writing an article right now and instead I’m here. Then we should ban them from streets so that people have to pay attention to where they are going and the things going on around them. At that point we’d have something like functioning human beings again instead of mindless zombies. We could still have terminals for plugging into the Machine but our time with it should be regulated (like it already is with research clusters) so that we don’t waste energy. There, the whole problem is solved and all it takes is a global butlerian jihad.

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    When I asked him why he had gone through so much trouble to get to an Ivy League university only to off-load all of the learning to a robot, he said, “It’s the best place to meet your co-founder and your wife.”

    Yikes.

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    It’s breathtaking how quickly the President of the United States and his good South African buddy can topple a superpower.

  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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    Ah yes, goal misalignment at its finest.

    The students need high grades to get a job, so they focus on ensuring that happens (AI use being the easy path).

    The teachers have progression targets to meet, so they focus on ensuring this happens (keep the AI vulnerable assessments).

    If you want to change a module as a teacher, good luck getting that work loaded when you should be implementing AI in your curriculum ^_^

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    • Teachers are overworked, underpaid, some still using course work that hasn’t been updated in years despite what the field has advanced
    • Students go into college due to the social expectation, some even unsure of what to get into as a career or even a class
    • Exceeding above the course requirements does nothing for your GPA, an A that got a “110%” and an A that got 90% are the same.
    • Students failing or passing still rack up debt for this social expectation
    • Teachers still failing to pay bills for this social need

    Yeah AI is the fault here, its not the system at large been fucked over since Reagan.

  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    We’ve been needing to rework education for years now anyway. At least this will force the teachers to change & adapt, whether they like it or not.

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    Yet they keep shoving it down our throats forcing us to delete entire systems to be rid of it

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    Imagine paying tens of thousands of dollars (probably of their parents saved money) to go to university and have a chatbot do the whole thing for you.

    These kids are going to get spit out into a world where they will have no practical knowledge and no ability to critically think or adapt.

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    AI is not your enemy. It IS the future whether you like it or not. Your kids will benefit from AI in ways you cannot even imagine.

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    Is it really screwing up the education system, or is it just revealing how screwed up it already was?

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      Came here to say that. If AI has the leeway to affect things in a negative way, then we’re not focusing on the right things to begin with. If kids are graded sometimes for the amount of (not necessarily coherent and sound) text they’re able to spit out, this is what you get.

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        Not US but I still remember printing off a full page of text, teacher looked at it for less than 5 seconds before giving it a tick. This is all meaningless, no one is reading it, no one cares, nothing matters.

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            I would have thought marking coursework has a higher standard than upvoting a lemmy post, but turns out it’s the other way around

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          I’m not talking about the US specifically either. It’s a global problem.

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      The corrupt cheapskates trying to nickel and dime every ISD in the country to bankruptcy absolutely fell over one another at the opportunity to fire staff and replace them with Clippy.

      Twenty years ago, state officials were all fawning over the idea of turning every university in the country into a pile subscription based Udemy online courses. Ten years ago, letting Pearson hijack the lesson plan of every classroom in the country was the dream. This has been a long time coming.

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      Well, here’s how you figure that out - think about it with your brain. Should children and young adults be given materials and assignments that require them to use thinking and develop their brains, or should they be given machines to do their thinking for them so that it’s easier to complete schoolwork?

      One route develops valuable brain skills that can be useful for life, and the other teaches dependency on fancy machines to accomplish the same.

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    Yes and no. Remember that rich kids could always hire ghost writers. ChatGPT made that available to the masses, but that particular problem goes back centuries.

    What we have seen is that the curriculum is often decided by a distant committee who actually doesn’t understand life on the ground. In reality, there are easy ways for teachers to undercut the utility of ChatGPT, if they have the freedom to make changes. But that depends on teachers having control and the time to make changes to how they teach.