• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
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    This isn’t like tiktok where “the algorithm” will pick up on your dislikes and stop showing you that content. Your downvotes nerf the visibility of that content for everyone, while not actually reducing its prevalence in your feed.

    The opposite, when the anime stuff I post gets downvotes, I double down on posting more. So unless you block the community, the content will appear in your feed again.

    Mods can’t see votes yet, but once I can, I would totally do this. Admins already can.

    If you’re just downvoting every post in a community or on an instance, you’re basically engaging in content suppression. You are actively reducing the visibility of an entire type of content which someone does want to see and engage with. But you’re tapping the brakes on that content thriving on lemmy, while doing nothing to actually personalise your feed.

    You don’t get to gatekeep what types of communities get to be on the fediverse. That’s up to admins, and the only limits even they should be enforcing are legal and moral.

    If you just don’t like the content, why would you keep downvoting it instead of blocking it?

    Downvoting is for misinformation, for posts that don’t belong in a given community, and comments that are in bad taste. Kinda like this post.

    If something just isn’t for you, downvoting it is like trying to stop other people from listening to their favourite music because you don’t get it.

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      Gate keep ? Hmmm… last time I checked, anything slightly leaning to the right of center of a political opinion on lemmy gets mass down voted people even create down vote bots to do so.

      Because it’s not about keeping lemmy interesting IT’S ABOUT KEEPING IT FUCKING POLITICAL but only with the ‘right’ politics ;) so don’t give me that song and dance.

      See, you even said it yourself “that’s up to the admins” you’re admitting it. That’s how pompuss some of you admins are. And that’s fucking sad. For you, not me.

      Misinformation? So everyone on lemmy or who has an internet connection, is now an arbiter of truth and educationally qualified to to discerne fact from Indeed fiction? You allow strangers to make up your mind for you ? Get the fuck out of here with this.

      if something just isn’t for you, downvoting it is like trying to stop other people from listening to their favourite music because you don’t get it

      Practice what you preach then, and do the same. Lead by example. Not a politically fueled rage online internet person who thinks that just because theyre an online forum admin is somehow like the next coming of Christ.

      Pathetic

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        I like how you immediately assumed I’m a hypocrite, as if I’m one of those people who set up down vote bots. I barely even engage with the political side of lemmy.

        The reality of how votes are used in some parts of the threadiverse, is not an excuse to be one of the people using them in a way they shouldn’t be.

        And refusing to curate your own feed is part of your problem. You want the entirety of lemmy to be the way you want it to be, instead of finding the parts of it that are for you.

        See, you even said it yourself “that’s up to the admins” you’re admitting it. That’s how pompuss some of you admins are. And that’s fucking sad. For you, not me.

        How is choosing what content you host pompous? When I run communities or game servers, and encounter users I don’t want to interact with or enable, I don’t owe them a platform or a good time. I remove them. End of discussion.

        I control what my labor goes towards, and I will not have it be a stepping stone for things I don’t approve of. If someone needs a soapbox, they need to use one which doesn’t mind being stood on. If they can’t find one, or if they bring their own and people still walk by instead of stopping to listen, they need to reconsider if their method of communication is effective.

        Generally, calling people pathetic or telling them they’d get their asses handed to them, isn’t how you get a point across.

        Practice what you preach then, and do the same. Lead by example.

        I already do? Again, how is this a comeback? Continue your insistence on being rude, and you will simply become yet another entry in my blocklist.

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      I mean really though, who does that ?

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        Literally anyone trying to help?

        The fediverse doesn’t have “an algorithm” that figures out what you like and dislike, so downvoting doesn’t make content go away. It just nerfs the visibility of that one post for everyone else.

        You’ll still get the next post in your feed, and the one after that…

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    I understand that it’s not nice to hear, but it’s a habit that makes Lemmy a lot less interesting as soon as you have a minority interest or opinion. For example, I’m not conservative but it wouldn’t occur to me to downvote a post on c/conservative, they have the right to have their place.

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      I definitely get that and it’s cool that you don’t do that. This isn’t political though, I’ve got a few accounts on on other instances, and this guy so far has messaged me twice saying the same thing. Like who even are you dude ?

      I don’t care if someone is an admin, if it bothers you that much then turn your votes off.

      Had nothing to do with politics or the region he mentioned either. Sorry I’m not meaning this to come off as if I’m yelling, my tone here, is more just perplexed by this.

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        They’re literally just trying to be helpful, while perhaps preventing unwarranted reduction in visibility for a given type of content.

        Blocking is one of the tools you have to curate your feed, downvoting is not. Votes are essentially crowd-sourced curation of everyone’s feeds.

        Them turning their votes off, wont help you avoid the content you don’t want, nor remove your potentially misguided impact on everyone else’s feeds.

        This admin is literally doing you, and everyone else, a kindness. They are trying to maximize everyone’s experience on lemmy, including yours, and your response to them is frankly disgusting.

        YATA