I’m 40, and when I was a teenager, EVERY band had CDs. And I know a lot of music has shifted to digital. So much so that I heard Best buy stopped selling CDs. Presumably because nobody buys them.

So I wonder what musicians sell besides t-shirts and posters at concerts. Do the kids have ANY CDs? Do they buy mp3’s? Do they just use pandora and spotify? Do they even own their own music?

I’ve given up on trying to understand the lingo. Other generations lingo sounds stupid to me, but still understandable based on context.

I have NO idea what a skibifibi toilet is…sounds like a toilet after some taco bell and untalented jazz, but maybe I can try to understand their thought process on media consumption.

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    Sometimes I buy CDs and rip to flac so that really obscure shit doesn’t get lost forever.

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      Upvoted. Because my favorite music comes from bands that I’ve been in tiny concert venues, where I’m 1 of 13 people in the crowd.

      I’ll admit that even though she’s not my style, Taylor Swift has some…as the kids would say…bangers.

      But my favorite music is with bands that I 100% can say you’ve never heard of, and is so obscure I doubt you could even find it.

      But people like you are helping make obscure music easier to find. Awesome!

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        I had to fix my ratio on redacted. I found I had so many CDs of random local bands that were handed out at shows that weren’t online. It was weird to basically be the only person that had some music online.

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            It’s crazy, because I know a lot of those bands aren’t together anymore. They never made it and are effectively forgotten to the internet. I feel like a custodian of music history. If I didn’t put them online, they’d have disappeared entirely.

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              I’ve definitely had that feeling before. I was really into Chinese rock bands and bought a bunch of CDs. I’ve been slowly uploading them. I mean China is a big country with lots of people, so it’s not like these bands are completely unknown, but when I used to go to concerts in China some of the groups that I thought rocked the hardest didn’t tend to pull big crowds. And when you look on Chinese Internet for this stuff, you usually find crappy MP3s, not rips following proper procedures.

              I still think about the band where I showed up late because the train to Beijing was delayed and then the taxi driver couldn’t find the venue address, so I just barely caught their last song. Then afterwards I was hanging out chatting with people and they were like, since you only got to hear one song you deserve to meet the singer. And they were friends with the singer so they called her to come out. It seemed like she was blown away that any foreign fans at all are into her music, and when she found out I didn’t yet have a place to stay for the night and was planning to find a last minute hostel or hotel she said “no, you’re not doing that, you’re staying with my friends who have a spare room”.

              Whenever I rip & upload Chinese rock, I think about those people who were so friendly and gracious towards me. Like who tf invites some random stranger at a rock concert over like that. And none of those bands, even the ones that made it “big” really got the attention that I thought they deserved. They were pouring their heart and soul into their music.

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    Not a younger person, but last concert I attended, the artist was selling bandcamp codes for their albums (I got two for €5 each). On top of that CDs and vinyls, each would include a bandcamp code too, so I assume people without CD players or turntables can get the physical item and still enjoy the music digitally

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    I just turned 40. For my birthday I went to go see a small disco funk band. They run their own merch table, tour around the country in a van, have day jobs, etc. I wanted to support them so I was gonna buy a T-shirt, but it was $25, I only had $20 on me, and they didn’t take card. So I got a $15 CD. They also didn’t have any change, so I had to wait 5 minutes for them to go to the bar and get them to break a 20.

    Then I got home and realized I didn’t even have a CD player. So I dug out an old DVD drive and installed in my desktop, ripped the CD to FLAC, pulled the drive out, and threw the CD into my old box of CDs I haven’t opened in 10+ years…

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      I was gonna say “only $25 for a concert t-shirt?” because they wanted like $50 for one at a Pantera concert about 6 months ago…then I saw this was over a decade ago.

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        Yeah, but that’s Pantera. Any time you go to an old head concert they’re going to charge you fuck you prices. My wife went to see Motley Crue a few years ago, and they were charging about the same, and a bit less for Jett’s merch. As she so eloquently put it, “the main reason old bands go on tour is they need money”.

        Going to smaller/newer bands’ shows has much more reasonably priced merch. But for those old heads, you’re paying for the well known name and so they can supplement their social security payment while trying not to break a hip on stage.

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          The tickets were only like $100 a piece for second level seats and that was mostly because of the ticket pricing bullshit. It was like $60 for the ticket and $40 of “fuck you, pay me” money and then the taxes on top of that. I saw Metallica back in 2018 and it was $100 for pit tickets. I was like 30 feet from James.

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        No, this was 2 months ago

        Its an independent band that runs their own merch table after the show. Its not a band with 3+ decades of content that can charge $50 for a shirt.

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          Ah, I misread the last part. Of course if it’s a small Indie band they’re not going to charge out of the ass for stuff, that’d be dumb on their part.

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    Teenager here, I regularly buy CDs at bagpipe concerts* because there’s no unique bagpipe music on streaming services.

    *Bagpipe concerts here means renn faire performances

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    No? I don’t have any way to play it. If I wanna listen to a song, I just do it on Spotify or I pirate the FLAC if I really like it…

    E: I really don’t know why you associate younger generations with a “lingo” or “skibidi toilet”… Sure there are chronically online people who use it unironically but like… Cmon.

    • I came across a quality cassette tape player while cleaning out my MIL’s house. I’m keeping it for when the cassette tape fad rolls around, with people claiming the sound “just sounds more authentic” or some shit. Then I can sell it on eBay for a grand or something stupid.

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    I’m probably too old (29), but I do tend to buy CDs of artists I like. 2 weeks ago I was at a festival and bought 3 CDs (as well as some other stuff). Today I’m expecting another CD to arrive in my letterbox.

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    I’m not much younger & I’m not going to read the comments. They’re either ignorant, or they don’t care, or they’ll reflect my opinion. You need to stop & think – how do I get money from my hand directly to the artist(s)?

    The artists receive very little from streaming revenue or CD sales (unless onsite at concert, maybe). The recording label eats up a lot of profits. So honestly I’d buy tickets, I’d buy merch at concert, I’d put cash money directly into their hand.

    Anything else might be stolen by the venue, the recording label, the third parties, the goddamn United States government, etc etc etc.

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    I’m 38 and man, you sound like you’re 75 🤣

    I’m assuming you haven’t been to a concert in a few decades? I went to see Pantera and Lamb of God about 6 months ago and the only merch being sold was overpriced t-shirts, like $45-50 USD.

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      That’s probably just because those are old acts that have the benefit of charging fuck you prices for a shirt. The last time I saw disturbed, their shirts were priced like that.

      Other I saw alestorm and gloryhammer last year and the shirts were like 35, CDs were 20, and I got a rubber duck captain thing for like 15. mc chris had similar prices, but he also had a full discog flashdrive for like 100, and as much as I’d love to support mc on that, I have all but like 2-3 albums so it’s just not worth it to me.

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    I definitely do. Supports the band in question, and I get to rip the audio off the CD for my digital collection. Best part, if I lose my digital music collection and can’t access a backup, I still have the disc to rip from again.

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    Pins, patches, vinyl, tapes and very rarely CDs.

    My band is planning out our merch for the fall and we’re planning on two shirts, four larger patches, 2 to 6 pin designs, logo patches and a 7-inch (TBR). It’s a street punk band.

    My death metal band has a slightly different table, but it’s those things in general.

    A band we play shows with often has hot sauce they produce for sale as merch.

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      Yo, the Elder hot sauce is great, though. I went online to buy more a few months after I saw them, lol

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    CD? No, I can get mostly the same sound quality, if not better via streaming. Vinyl? Yeah because it’s a set piece. It’s a great conversation starter to have a cool collection.

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      And Vinyl is also kind of a ritual. With taking it out of the sleeve and putting it on.

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    I’m 22 and 240 months… And I wonder why not small USB sticks with m4a files on them… Maybe some behind the scenes footage and a digital poster or message/manifesto?

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      A) it’s a horrible idea from a security standpoint

      B) all the anti-piracy groups would probably have a heart attack and attempt to shut it down in any way possible

      C) it’s a lot more expensive for the band to pay for this type of distribution compared to CDs

      D) it will most likely end up as e-waste

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        For point c, it’s actually cheaper depending on how they do it. One of my favorite artists, mc chris, has done USB discog sales for over a decade. He charges like 100 for it last I saw, but it’s also a custom USB along with having like 10-20 albums and Eps.

        It would be much more expensive to press, bundle and package/ship that many CDs in comparison to a single USB drive. And since it’s also merch, point 4 is unlikely. He’s never cared about his music being pirated (and even has lyrics about his music being ‘forever free for the poor kids’, so B isn’t an issue either.

        Option a is basically do you trust the artist, which one would hope they’re trustworthy, but they could also Sony you if they weren’t…

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          For point c, it’s actually cheaper depending on how they do it. One of my favorite artists, mc chris, has done USB discog sales for over a decade. He charges like 100 for it last I saw, but it’s also a custom USB along with having like 10-20 albums and Eps.

          That’s pretty cool, but at what quality? MP3? AAC? M4A? FLAC? You don’t know until you buy it and plug it in, you know that a CD is going to be WAV files which is uncompressed audio mastered at the best quality possible, which you can then rip to your desired format. If whats on the USB drive isn’t FLAC, you’re limited to what they gave you.

          It would be much more expensive to press, bundle and package/ship that many CDs in comparison to a single USB drive

          It all depends on if you’re doing it yourself or if you have someone that’s already setup to do it as a business. After a quick search, I found a site that will do 100 CDs with inserts and jewel cases for $255, I’m sure the price goes down with the more you order. The same site offers custom USB drives with silkscreen printing (how else are you going to know what’s on it amongst all your other flash drives assuming you intend to keep it?) is $330 for 100, so if the artist is actually putting multiple CDs onto a single USB drive than it definitely is cheaper for them, but I’m not sure how many bands would actually do that.

          And since it’s also merch, point 4 is unlikely. He’s never cared about his music being pirated (and even has lyrics about his music being ‘forever free for the poor kids’, so B isn’t an issue either.

          That’s one artist, lots of artists care about their music being pirated because it cuts into their revenue, which they get very little of in the first place (referring to CDs, not streaming which is a lot better for them in terms of revenue). IDK how old you are, but I’m guessing you don’t remember Napster/Limewire/Kazaa. Also, a lot of the time it’s the companies that own the rights to the music that care the most because they’re the ones that get like 70% of the profits.

          Option a is basically do you trust the artist, which one would hope they’re trustworthy, but they could also Sony you if they weren’t…

          Ah, yes, the good old Sony rootkit.

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    I dont know why but this post feels like a teenager trying to sound like a boomer on the internet. (boomers arent 40 anymore btw)

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    TBH I (23) have gone backwards. I love collecting signed vynals of my favorite bands

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      Can second this. Not only has it personal and collector value, you actually own it in contrast to the digital age where everything can be taken away by the host service even if you payed for it before. And no, “you only bought the license to stream it not the media content” is only legal rubbish these companies spout to justify the morally questionable bs they push to be the norm.