The software maker will use the Recommended section of the Start menu, which usually shows file recommendations, to suggest apps from the Microsoft Store.
Well, of course. I mean it’s not like you paid for a Microsoft Windows license when you bought your computer, so obviously they have to advertise to financially support it. If you’re getting something for free, you’re the product.
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Wait, I’m being told that when people buy computers with Windows installed, they are, in fact, paying for a Windows license, too.
So this is actually Microsoft trying to turn products they’ve already sold into continuous revenue streams at the cost of usability and customer happiness.
In other news, apropos of nothing in particular, Steam on Linux is working really well these days, with lots of AAA titles running just fine via Proton. Make of that what you will…
Kernel level anticheat for a few games is the only real speedbump I’m aware of, and it’s only on a couple of game franchises like CoD I think. I would love it a ton of people made the switch and it hurt those games’ companies revenue noticeably enough that they look for a way to moderate cheating without just lazily requiring Windows in order to play online.
Linux is finally convenient enough to realistically steal swaths of customers from Microsoft, and it’s at the same time that Windows 11 is pissing a ton of people off. We’re in for some strange times.
“Kernel-level anti-cheat” is just company talk for rootkit. I’ll pass.
I doubt that it reliably stops DMA boards anyway.
There are way too many games out there for me to care anymore. Once i build my new PC, its Linux only. If it doesn’t run on Linux, I don’t need to play it.
This is the way.
I’m also looking forward to when game companies try to add kernel level anti cheat to Linux/s
Honestly, the big deal isnt Linux getting better (it has. Slowly.) But windows enshittifying so hard.
Love a windows feature you just can’t let go for Linux? Better find a way to prevent system updates, or it could vanish overnight!
Rainbow six siege and valorsnt are other examples
that they look for a way to moderate cheating without just lazily requiring Windows in order to play online.
I would avoid those kernel level
malwaresanticheat anyways, whether they’re for Windows or if they port them to Linux (“to run this game, please load this kernel module”… no thanks).
I wish this was true…
…but there’s still a few technical issues that keep things from running smooth.
Also, VR.
I mean, yeah, a few, but there are plenty with Windows too, and the overwhelming majority of games I’ve tried it with work fine.
I play VR on Linux, it works surprisingly well, especially via Wayland. There’s an app called Envision that sets up basically everything you need for you. Unlike a few years ago, I had to do no fiddling, it just works.
I have a Quest 2.
For that the recommendation is ALVR
Which I have already tried - it don’t Wayland, and I get legendary stuttering when moving about. No go.
Are you using Nvidia, if so that might be why I am running it just fine on an AMD gpu on wayland using Nobara
AMD RX 6700 XT, Bazzite
So you bought proprietary windows hardware and youre upset it doesn’t have good enough performance? Seems short sighted but okay.
I bought what was affordable on the used market. And VR stuff is almost entirely Windows exclusive, with only the Index having a native Linux compatibility via the recent SteamVR Linux port. While the Quest series (and a Pico, its Chinese competitor) run a special version of Android, they don’t have the performance in standalone mode that a PC has. Besides, my library of VR games are all on the PC.
And before you say “you shold have Index”, I will point out the very, very high cost and requirement for external tracking hardware, aka “the lighthouse”, something I lack the space for.
You’re the only one acting upset
I do too. Envision has an option to install “WiVRn” which I found worked way better than ALVR.
I can’t build an Envision profile in Bazzite, several source code packages don’t exist.
We’re not paying for the updates, though. I don’t recall paying Microsoft for anything in ages, and I have a legit copy of windows 10 installed.
To most people, now that windows is mostly stable, there’s no draw to upgrade when a new major version comes out. Why volunteer for new os growing pains when the last Gen works great? Even more so if you have to buy another license.
who would click that
who clicks ads in general
have you ever clicked an ad (on purpose)
I have never, not once in my life, clicked on an internet or electronic ad. Even for things I’m ostensibly interested in. Jury’s out on just how much manically SEO optimized retail web sites on Google count as “ads,” I guess. But other than that: Zilch.
But someone somewhere must be clicking on them because billions of dollars are spent every year pushing the fucking things.
I’m so skewed this direction that I’ll scroll past the sponsored version of the link in a Google search to click on the exact, unsponsored version. I don’t know why.
Same for me and Amazon results
Some marketers believe it doesn’t matter if someone clicks as brand recognition has its own value. On the other hand, who hasn’t heard of Tiktok by now?
Of course marketers believe that, because it’s their job to give their clients
hypehope.Middle management usually wants to hear about conversions this quarter and especially ROI, not mindshare.
I’ve seen Proton services mentioned so much here and in communities such as selfhosted that I went to their website today to check what they offer.
Proton is a linuxtool for game compatibility.nothing to do with the web company.
Which supposedly offers security but falls all over themselves sucking the dick of any security service willing to notice them.
Go into app or play store and sort by most downloaded. They’re pretty exclusively a list of games and apps that you find advertised.
I’m my circle, people are seeming to become more willing to admit they got something from an ad. I feel like there used to be shame behind it
The most frequent lately has been women buying their clothes from Instagram ads. The argument they have made is that they see SO MANY ads, the one they choose to spend money on was because they wanted it and that apparently is a solid vetting process. But this is people in my sphere, I dunno if it’s a thing.
I used a Google TV stick and for sick of the bullshit ads and switched to a simple launcher. In reddit and lemmy threads, there are always highly up voted people who are happy to get “popular recommendations”.
The generality, I feel like, is people are busy living their lives, don’t want to research and learn about everything in their life, and just go with what they see.
It’s gotten really difficult to research products, speaking as someone who does a lot of it, so I don’t think it’s about not wanting to do it.
Go look for something like a good dehumidifier and it’s all seo-optimized bullshit barely hiding that it’s advertisements for cheap Chinese junk on Amazon. And nearly every link is like that. For pages upon pages worth of results.
It’s so so difficult to judge what’s actually legit info and what isn’t. So I don’t blame people for asking other humans for what worked for them. You almost kinda have to unless you know of good legit review sites for every product you might want or need.
Tbh instagram is the only place I click all the ads. All because they’re so god damned weird.
I never buy anything though.
What they’re told to want. Wonderful. Won’t ever be nefarious.
I right click them and then in the drop down menu that appears I click “block element…”
I’ve never clicked an ad on purpose. I use DNS to block all the common click thru domains for ads.
This move by Microsoft will undoubtedly result in more Windows PCs infected by malware as people find tools to remove the ads and some of those tools will turn out to be malware.
I have on search results, but it was for something that I was already looking for. The ad had the same link to the web page as the result below. 🤷♂️
noone ever does – Microsoft, Google and Facebook must be faking their reports on how effective their advertisement platforms are in order to boost their sales. the sales of ads, not the advertised products
Not once. I did willingly click on a sponsor link from a YT video once tho, it was for a rice cooker. I ended up getting a different one, but still.
Ads were already there for years - for Facebook, TikTok, Candy Crush, and who knows what else.
I would say this is embarrassingly unprofessional, but the truth is this is just normal these days - normalized by Facebook and Android - and I’m just old and used to better software.
I switched to Linux the same year they appeared.
i’ve been testing not using windows ever again. since 2004.
it’s great.
Microsoft is the school bully who keeps shoving you and saying: “what are you gonna do about it?”
Risk toying in the registry to kill it, of course 🏴☠️
PC Master Race is fitting.
Ah finally, Windows and Cheap chinese android phone have something in common. Ads in their built in
bloatwaresapps.Cheap chineseAll android phoneAll android phone
Not Fairphones. Fairphones are ad-free, bloatware-free and privacy-focused.
FP4 user here. while that is true, any android ROM with google services on it isn’t privacy-focused.
but i don’t want to miss out on clash of clans, so here i am using their bullshit spyware.
Their mission is amazing but I’m not going to sit here and pretend any Google-laden Android isn’t also ad-laden.
The Murena Fairphones in the U.S. are de-googled. They have replacements for pretty much everything, including email. You can import your google contacts. You can import your google calendar into the de-googled calendar and access it from app or web just like the google version. The only google stuff on my fairphone is what I put on it myself. And I can still download and run every app on the google play store if I choose.
Murena Fairphone
That’s awesome, never heard of this! I was referring to the stock Fairphones, which are absolutely Google-filled. But if someone is reselling them with all that crap stripped then that project is for sure worthy of recognition.
Consider most recent offering from china does not have Android One option, this statement is true. Few years ago Xiaomi sell several of their line up with Android One variant that strictly only contain Google Apps only.
As long as your phone have snapdragon soc, most likely the community have made custom rom for that model. But if you want something more hardened out of the box like GrapheneOS, you’re out of luck.
I’m ok with promoted spots in a store, but in the core OS UI, fuck that.
This actually touches on a major issue with digital content and software as a service compared to the old models, that people don’t seem to quite grasp.
It used to be you’d walk into a store, buy a thing, and leave. Businesses could only sell to you while you’re in the store. There was a clear delineation.
What we’ve seen over the last couple decades is the increasing invasion of the store into your home. These businesses don’t want you to ever leave the store. You are meant to be living in it, at all times. There can never be any true escape unless you disconnect from the internet and disengage with modern technology.
Don’t worry, I’m sure there will be “pro” version that you can pay extra for no ads.
This isn’t an ad, it’s a suggested result from one of our partners
How sure?
For how long?
“Microsoft has been experimenting with ads inside Windows for more than 10 years.”
*sigh*
With Windows 10, you had much more control over the start menu. Windows 11 is further eroding control. That’s why they absolutely refuse to allow you to disable the Recommended section.
The ability to disable it is present in the OS, but it’s restricted to Enterprise versions. Disabling an unneeded and annoying UI element is a Premium feature now. And as everyone said when they made that clear a few months ago, “that’s where the ads will go”.
They’ll probably let you disable them, at least for now. But the fact you can’t disable the place for the ads is telling. We’ll see how they feel about letting you disable those ads in a few years.
the next logical step is 10s ads before launching any program
“Drink verification can to unlock your PC”
Ah yes….Linux!
they really are trying to fuck themselves over, aren’t they?
i’m gonna switch as soon as game devs realize linux needs anticheat support.
and i know a lot of people who don’t care what operating system they run as long as they can use their web browser on it.
Just moved away from Windows 11 to Nobara. Enough is enough.
One of the most hated features of Windows 10 and they removed it just to add it back later lmao. They deffo had this planned all along and knew it would hurt their already terrible upgrade rates if they added it from the start