I mean you very much can force your kids into certain roles and behaviors. That is not forcing them to actually be gay or trans, but to live like they are, and is child abuse – i assume this is more rare but idk. How you objectively distinguish between helping/supporting and forcing the kids is beyond me though, I couldn’t write a law to capture that.
I think your comment is interesting though because I saw the meme and never thought they were saying anything forcing kids to be gay/trans, but being forced to act like or believe they were because that’s what their parents wanted.
This is an odd take to me since the consensus among sexologists is often the fluidity of sexual orientation…? How else do we explain societies in which things like pederasty and various other forms of homosexuality were widely accepted, and then for it ranging to societies that are incredibly closed…?
And stuff like this:
0.6% of Traditionalists (born before 1946) identiy as LGBTQ
2.6% of Baby Boomers
4.2% of Gen X
10.5% of Millenials
20.8% of Gen Z
As sexuality is clearly to some degree fluid and is informed and swings drastically by generation due to changing culture, the idea that sexuality is influenced by parenting seems also to be clear…?
There are no more LGBTQ people today than there were back in the 40s. They’re just not being jailed for it. As society becomes more accepting more people feel safe coming out. Even Alan Turing was tossed into a cell for being gay, and he arguably led to Britain winning world war 2. Whereas in my kids school class the only ones who have a problem with it are the Palestinians. And the 20% includes bi people who would have flown easily under the radar back in the day
But it very well may be the case that you have a primarily Palestinian refugee group there.
Nonetheless, I think people misunderstand the situation gays faced - interviews with a lot of them back in the Deep South in these days talk about how they were pretty well known elements but had to simply avoid outing themselves in their small town directly. They could have their private life, but it could not really be admitted to bluntly, or it would draw ire. I am sure that, to some degree, they were subject to the excesses of lunatics with little recourse, but there is an entire industry designed to make people think that all anyone ever did prior to 1967 was witch hunt gays, Jews, and Communists.
But why didn’t the Baby Boomers - who were 20%+ LGBTQ,since this number never changes, right…?! - why didn’t they revolutionize the way that this is viewed if 1 in 5 of them were gays? They revolutionized everything else.
The only foreigners in my kids class are Palestinian. It’s otherwise all Norwegians. But you also have to bare in mind that it wasn’t uncommon for effeminate men to have it “beaten out of them” or lesbians to be raped to “correct their behaviour” until very recently. So it was in people’s best interests to keep it secret. I remember that even 20 years ago in the more left leaning cities in Britain people were getting put in the hospital for being gay/ trans.
Oh damn. It’s an actual “the right can’t meme” post in the wild.
It’s so weird that they think you can force kids to be trans or gay.
I mean you very much can force your kids into certain roles and behaviors. That is not forcing them to actually be gay or trans, but to live like they are, and is child abuse – i assume this is more rare but idk. How you objectively distinguish between helping/supporting and forcing the kids is beyond me though, I couldn’t write a law to capture that.
I think your comment is interesting though because I saw the meme and never thought they were saying anything forcing kids to be gay/trans, but being forced to act like or believe they were because that’s what their parents wanted.
Then you completely missed the memes message.
This is an odd take to me since the consensus among sexologists is often the fluidity of sexual orientation…? How else do we explain societies in which things like pederasty and various other forms of homosexuality were widely accepted, and then for it ranging to societies that are incredibly closed…?
And stuff like this:
From super Fascist far right wing source Axios.
As sexuality is clearly to some degree fluid and is informed and swings drastically by generation due to changing culture, the idea that sexuality is influenced by parenting seems also to be clear…?
There are no more LGBTQ people today than there were back in the 40s. They’re just not being jailed for it. As society becomes more accepting more people feel safe coming out. Even Alan Turing was tossed into a cell for being gay, and he arguably led to Britain winning world war 2. Whereas in my kids school class the only ones who have a problem with it are the Palestinians. And the 20% includes bi people who would have flown easily under the radar back in the day
Palestinian came off as oddly specific.
But it very well may be the case that you have a primarily Palestinian refugee group there.
Nonetheless, I think people misunderstand the situation gays faced - interviews with a lot of them back in the Deep South in these days talk about how they were pretty well known elements but had to simply avoid outing themselves in their small town directly. They could have their private life, but it could not really be admitted to bluntly, or it would draw ire. I am sure that, to some degree, they were subject to the excesses of lunatics with little recourse, but there is an entire industry designed to make people think that all anyone ever did prior to 1967 was witch hunt gays, Jews, and Communists.
But why didn’t the Baby Boomers - who were 20%+ LGBTQ,since this number never changes, right…?! - why didn’t they revolutionize the way that this is viewed if 1 in 5 of them were gays? They revolutionized everything else.
The only foreigners in my kids class are Palestinian. It’s otherwise all Norwegians. But you also have to bare in mind that it wasn’t uncommon for effeminate men to have it “beaten out of them” or lesbians to be raped to “correct their behaviour” until very recently. So it was in people’s best interests to keep it secret. I remember that even 20 years ago in the more left leaning cities in Britain people were getting put in the hospital for being gay/ trans.
In the year 2005 they were involuntarily forcing gay people into hospitals in the UK?
This is wildly inaccurate.
No, put in the hospital as in getting beaten badly enough to warrant medical attention.
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