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    I’m finding the iOS app buggy as heck. It just crashes as soon as I open it. Had to delete it. May try again later.

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    … which is absolutely understandable considering how lemmy is most of the time,

    it’s politics non-stop, one bad news after another, everyone is quick to bash somebody as either a nazi or a tankie or something else.

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    Not surprising. As long as they can afford the servers, it will probably get to Mastadon levels.

    Lemmy is a replacement for reddit, and reddit was always much smaller than Instagram.

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      Hopefully people are willing to donate to their instances to keep them financially healthy. It’ll be a pretty big issue for growth if it starts to get popular but the larger instances can’t afford to stay operational and disappear.

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      It’s like saying “people share photos and videos all the time on Twitter. What is the difference with Instagram?”

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        So one is for spreading right wing propaganda and one is for shilling knockoff perfumes?

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            As a software guy, that just sounds like one bit of software with two audiences that call it different things.

            Everyone seems to be stepping on each others toes anyway, with “reels” and shit trying desperately to claw back some of those kids lost to TikTok.

            Honestly not sure why the Fediverse is split that way either. A Lemmy client surely contains about 99% of the code to be a Mastodon client or Loops or Pixelfed or any of the others. Just looks like a procession of people constantly reinventing the wheel and painting it a different colour…

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      Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.

      People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.

      Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.

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      Better UI and a better discover page mainly. Plus it’s gotten a lot of organic advertising just from luck and people talking about it, and no obvious competitor like Bluesky

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        Yes. No transcoding, but that’s actually a feature as far as I’m concerned.

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    When a fediverse app wins, the whole fediverse wins. A rising tide lifts all ships or however it goes.

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      Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it’s been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don’t personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.

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        The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials

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        I just can’t imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It’s incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.

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          I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.

          The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.

          You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.

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      Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”

      Not sure when he sleeps

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      Yes.

      -Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)

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        Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.

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        I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.

        I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.

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          Exactly!! YouTube is by far the best “social” platform (or least shit) and sadly the strongest monopoly. Cus what the fuck is a newly made competitor gonna do? Rip all YouTube videos and host them? People on IG and X etc don’t really go around looking at old posts, those places are more for looking at what’s new and such. On YouTube however its entirely game that u find a dope edutainment video from years ago that you happen to vibe with.

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            That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.

            With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.

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              I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won’t release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.

              Of course that’s just issue number 1 of many to figure out.

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                Storage costs keeps getting cheaper, but high quality video keeps taking up more space.

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                  It’s a matter of finding where the line between cost and user satisfaction meet.

                  Like sure you could limit all videos to 60fps @ 720p or 30fps @ 1080p but most everyone now wants everything 120fps @ 2160p which takes up dozens of gigs per video and eats up bandwidth.

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          Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.

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            Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.

            By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.

            You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.

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              I’m genuinely confused. Is YouTube even profitable ATP? Hard to imagine it not being so but they’ve been doubling down on squeezing out every coin they can, trying to fight adblock is one example, pushing out more ads too. Wtf even is going on over there.

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                Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.

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                I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.

                All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.

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          Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.

          The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself

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        I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?

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          You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don’t think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn’t federated with

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            If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other

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              That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.

              The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. The two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.

              Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.

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    My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.

    And pro tip: Post and tag a cute picture of your pet and people will see your account.

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      They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.

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        Mastodon has third-party starter packs now. I wonder if it works for Pixelfed?

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        I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.

        I found half of the people I’m following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I’m up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.

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        Search with the magnifying glass icon. In Discover maybe you can find something.

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      What are you guys posting pictures of over on pixelfed? What’s goin’ on over there that’s so popular? Is it more politics, and social issues? Or is it cats?

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          …titty pictures of girls in bikinis from women who claim to be influencers, but have an audience that mostly doesn’t communicate or care what she has to say, thus negating any influence her words have?

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        My dog. no really, hes a good boy.

        And I follow one of the people from an Aquarium with fantastic shots.

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            That’s not Japanese fyi, 太鼓の達人 is the Japanese name

            It is Japanese drumming game with an associated controller, I posted a guide with pictures to modify the drum controller so it’s more sensitive to being hit

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              I’d say it’s Japanese, just the romaji for 太鼓の達人. English translation would be like “drum master”

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                I mean yes but it’s also the official title for the English release of the game.

                Like to be clear I’m not being the person who’s like “oh have you seen Kôkaku Kidôtai?” And then you’re like “what the fuck is that” and I’m like “uh, I guess if you’re uncultured you might know it as ghost in the shell.” And then everyone in the room groans because of fucking course every single person who speaks English as a native language has always called it ghost in the shell

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          Severely underrated game (with also one of the most underrated minigames ever!). I just wish it had more vidya crossover music.

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            The new one has more game music than old ones did. But to get a lot of it you have to subscribe. Thankfully the subscription isn’t terribly expensive ($10/3mo) and it’s easy to get it in a way that doesn’t auto renew. Music licensing is stupid though so music games are dying and will probably forever be subscription services going forward. The days of buying a game like guitar hero are long gone.

            It has the classic ones like Mario medley, Zelda overworld, Kirby, persona 5, undertale, etc. but the game pass adds stuff like tekken, id@lmaster, ridge racer, tales of symphonia, ace combat, etc.

            it’s a weird mix that’s definitely missing a lot of iconic stuff though. The push is definitely more pop/vocaloid/anime music

            Alternatively you can get something like opentaiko or tjaplayer (closer to the real game) and use custom charts from a site like https://ese.tjadataba.se/ESE/ESE . You need a pc but it doesn’t require a particularly great pc and pretty much every drum controller, including the official console ones, work on pc.

            I definitely wish it was more popular in the west. Online play is an absolute ghost town unless you play during Japan time. Like if you play during peak us hours matchmaking will literally spend 20-30 minutes to find no one.

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        Everything. It’s like early days Instagram, but people are more politically and socially aware, and posting about those things.

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        From what I have found, its almost all photos of animals and nature. Honestly I am kinda disappointed. I want memes. I also got onto Loops and that is also mostly animals and nature, but with the very occasional funny.

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      ikr lemmy has a little over 40k active users. If you look at the first data point just as the slope starts to rise, that’s where lemmy is by comparison:

      Total users is pretty meaningless bc it includes things like users who left and will never return, and bot accounts.