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  • It’s a society (or the whole humanity) becoming big enough to survive even when ignorant murderers are the elite and the majority of it, and civilized people - a smaller part and almost a property, similar to animals in a zoo.

    When such a point is reached, the former will make the transition, and the latter will diminish over time. Then it just has no future.

    A bit like with Ottoman empire and Qajar Iran, only on the scale of the whole humanity there won’t be someone else to buy weapons and technologies from to keep going. Then some of the previously passable filters will kick in. Like hunger or resource scarcity.


  • So why is there no competition arising, simply with some fries, burgers, soda and without this bullshit.

    Oh, I remembered, it’s all patented to hell. It’s practically illegal to open a fast food place not in one of these franchises.

    Same with many other areas of life. The Web and computers are the most obvious.

    Rats and cockroaches have conquered the kitchen. While many people in bureaucracies and everywhere were thieves and parasites, that still wasn’t socially acceptable. They didn’t like it, so now it’s almost official that the world is ruled by thieves and parasites and they are better than honest people. This IMHO also explains all the “geopolitical” stuff happening - it’s not to any practical end, the common thing between all (Western\Russian\whatever) policies is ideological, that decency should be murdered, dignity should be punished, and honesty should be poisoned. All the “rules” and “competition” and “civilization” stuff was (in the eyes of those people) being grown like livestock to be slaughtered for meat eventually.

    300 years from now this time is going to be called the start of the new dark ages, or the end of the thaw (Soviet analogy here), or something like that.















  • And GNU utilities were obviously used a lot on Unices and when Linux didn’t yet exist. Also bash is more or less similar to Korn shell, which was used earlier than you may think. And also zsh, despite people perceiving it as very modern, is older than you may think.

    Anyway, if a program written for Unix works on a Unix clone, it doesn’t cease being a Unix program. POSIX was a standard for Unix.

    I don’t get what are you arguing for. Especially since I meant bourne shell scripts, not bash scripts.

    You very much can avoid using a Unix shell. Your average Windows user has never used one, and neither do most macOS people even though it’s included with macOS. Likewise most people will never have to setup a web server.

    I’ve said once that I want to give a taste of something. I was more general with things one can’t avoid, as in “one can’t avoid computers and the Internet”. And this was pretty clear from the context, either you are playing dumb or you want to defeat someone in an argument, in the latter case I don’t care because I see you are not doing that.

    A taste of real things I’d want to give to help them connect their inner abstract idea of how the world works with actual material things. They will have that idea, I absolutely trust every person to develop that on their own without help. Without that they might not believe themselves when they should.

    None of this is going to stop someone getting scammed. You can have plenty of technical knowledge and still get scammed. I got scammed trying to sell a laptop for example. Teaching them how paypal works and to avoid using the friends and family option is much better for this purpose.

    See previous.

    If you want to give people practical skills start with adblockers and how to reinstall Windows, macOS, and Linux Mint if it goes wrong.

    I don’t want them to hate computing. This will lead to that exactly. Especially PowerShell.

    Anyway, see that same paragraph.



  • Unix isn’t even used anymore. Linux and the BSDs are Unix-like, not actual Unix.

    That’s still called Unix shell scripts even on Linux. Also it is used, Solaris and AIX - sometimes rarely, and BSDs are Unix unless you are a lawyer.

    What if your kids are physicists, chemists, or mathematicians?

    They still can spend a few hours on something useful for life. I know hundreds of little things like this from various areas even less useful specifically for me. While this is useful for everyone, as we can see every day from normies not knowing how anything in computing works and getting scammed.

    And of course this is insufficient to be a systems administrator.

    Are you going to say they aren’t good enough to use a fucking smartphone just because they don’t know specific things about a certain specific area of tech?

    No, that it’s dangerous for them without some knowledge and feeling of how computers work. That’s not to become a specialist, that’s just to feel things right.

    How do you know SQL specifically will even be relevant then? NoSQL is already making headway.

    Can do any of that. That’s not about preparing someone for a job.

    This isn’t how you get people into Open Source software or interested in technology. You can’t do it by forcing them to do things that are esoteric to the majority of people.

    This is about upbringing and introducing people to things they can’t avoid. Not about making them interested (but I’m almost confident that actually it will make a kid interested).