• Damionsipher@lemmy.world
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      Americans seeing themselves as the center of the world and primary (or only?) victims here, when American foreign policy is wreaking havoc on the international community. We’re not focused on you, as Americans, because your government is currently trying to fuck us and we’re dealing with that. We can have compassion for what you’re going through, just don’t expect much support as we have our own shit to deal with.

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        We can have compassion for what you’re going through, just don’t expect much support as we have our own shit to deal with.

        That’s perfectly fair. That’s also not the message the meme conveys.

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            Not really. If that was the case, the conversation between Europe and Canada would be about some of their many internal concerns. Instead they are talking about the orange clown. When Americans, the most directly affected victims of this fascist regime’s policies, try to interact amd commiserate about Cheeto Jesus’ bullshit, Europe and Canada give them a “ok cool fuck off” thumbs up.

            That’s pretty straightforward.

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              You also seem to think we’re sitting here just discussing America and/or your president. I assure you, we’re not, we’re talking about how to reorganize our global community to not involve America. America is noted as a former ally, not as a central aspect of our collective future. Canada and Europe discussing new trade agreements only has to do with American as far as they will not be involved in those trade agreements.

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                You also seem to think we’re sitting here just discussing America and/or your president.

                Not at all. I don’t make generalizations about the people of an entire country, much less a continent. I am only commenting on the meme.

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                  Americans are victims to their own government is completely different ways than the rest of the world. Your status as a victim does not grant you access to be a commentator on all other conversations occurring. The is no blame there, only a lack of validation of you being a victim.

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              The individualistic “me fist” attitude of Americans, no matter how marginalized they seem to be, is infuriating. Do you even recognize and discuss how much global strife is caused to the global south on a daily basis for a century directly because of American interest? Seriously, get fucked if you think anyone in the world should be putting any American’s interests above their own at this juncture of history. With that said, I fully support the international community asylum opportunities and hope they are helpful to Americans facing political persecution.

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              How have the fascist regime’s policies affected the rest of the world? Sure, the States draconian policies are terrible and we will be standing up to them at an international level, but you want the rest of the world to put you first while your government is being openly antagonistic to us. Are you first concerns not with Russian, North Korean or chinese citizens who still have less freedom of expression than any American?

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        Imma be totally real with you boss, our(American) government is trying just as hard to fuck us(the citizens).

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          Ok, so form separatist factions we can align with on an international level. Otherwise, we’re dealing with nation to nation negotiations. How much have the American people reached out to individually support the people of Iran, North Korea or Russia? Spoiler: not much of fuck all. Why should the international community now do intently care about individual American lives?

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      You elected a bully and you’re blaming the victims of that bully for not liking being bullied.

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      When Germany brings in the fourth reich after voting in the AfD in a few years I’m gonna be remembering this lack of basic compassion and empathy for the americans who explicitly tried to stop Trump.