• Demigodrick@lemmy.zipM
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    6 days ago

    FWIW I agree with you. The people who say they don’t support these tools come across as purists or virtue signallers.

    I would agree with not having AI art* or music and sounds. In games I’ve played with it in, it sounds so out of place.

    However support to make coding more accessible with the use of a tool shouldn’t be frowned upon. I wonder if people felt the same way when C was released, and they thought everyone should be an assembly programmer.

    The irony is that most programmers were just googling and getting answers from stackoverflow, now they don’t even need to Google.

    *unless the aim is procedurally generated games i guess, but if they’re using assets I get not using AI generated ones.

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      The people who say they don’t support these tools come across as purists or virtue signallers.

      It is now “purist” to protest against the usage of tools that by and large steal from the work of countless unpaid, uncredited, unconsenting artists, writers, and programmers. It is virtue signaling to say I don’t support OpenAI or their shitty capital chasing pig-brethren. It’s fucking “organic labelling” to want to support like-minded people instead of big tech.

      Y’all are ridiculous. The more of this I see, the more radicalized I get. Cool tech, yes, I admit! But wow, you just want to sweep all those pesky little ethical issues aside because… it makes you more productive? Shit, it’s like you’re competing with Altman on the unlikeability ranking.

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        5 days ago

        These same discussion happened with photoshop and “brush tools” why are those acceptable to make it less labor intensive, but this isn’t?

        It’s more hypocrisy over purism, as you’ve so nicely pointed out.

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          These same discussion happened with photoshop and “brush tools” why are those acceptable to make it less labor intensive, but this isn’t?

          You’re missing the point. “This makes things easier” isn’t the problem, it’s more along the lines of “this is only possible by stealing the works of countless people, it will attempt to obviate their jobs, and make billionaires even richer.” People aren’t mad you want to work less, they’re mad you’ll make things worse, and won’t even bother to grasp how.

          It’s more hypocrisy over purism, as you’ve so nicely pointed out.

          Comparing GenAI to brush tools is extremely disingenuous, talk about hypocrisy.