• YeetPics@mander.xyz
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    Also their FAQ page on steam is locked down (except for moderators and their disciples) so I can’t post about not being able to use native voice chat. Literally KILLS any teamcentric gameplay.

    “Let me pause and type out that I just launched an airstrike so my team doesn…”

    “Let me delete the warning and retype an apology for nuking my entire squad.”

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    Maybe I missed it in the article but what is the reason for this? I was about to purchase the game this weekend but I’m not jumping through hoops to be able to play a game I paid for.

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        Sony has published other games that made it to pc, like horizon zero dawn, that don’t require a Sony account so that isn’t really the reason

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      Sony published the game. You already need a PSN account for cross play, but it wasn’t required, you just didn’t get crossplay. Now you need it to play. A PSN account is free. I’ve had one for a decade+ and have never even owned a Playstation. Not that big of a deal in my opinion. You will just have to sign in. It is less invasive than a CDPR account for Cyberpunk and Witcher or ubisoft for farcry, or EA for all the others. PSN doesn’t even require an additional piece of software launcher like the rest. You literally sign in, in game, and never think about it again. Not that big of a deal.

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        You already need a PSN account for cross play

        Factually incorrect. I never linked up and have played with at least one person I knew was on PlayStation.

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          Crazy, I couldn’t play with any of my PS friends until I linked. Hmmm I guess I am wrong, internet man says so 🤷‍♂️ It is crazy watching the hivemind turn on shit. OH NO! MY DATA MIGHT GET STOLEN! As they type their response on an android phone, or a windows computer. MY PRECIOUS DATA! I couldn’t possibly be competent enough to take even the simplist of measures to seperate it if I am worried, like a ghost email and a one off password. How dare they mildly inconvenience me!. I am going to turn on the ONE game that hasn’t tried to fuck me in the ass like every other game because the internet told me to be mad!

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      Yes. They just didn’t enforce it until now. For people to be raging and demanding refunds is ridiculous.

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        The two biggest issues I’ve seen people talking about are 1, they don’t want to give Sony their data for literally no benefit and 2, there are countries where there is no PSN support, meaning that players who own the game and have been playing will no longer be able to access it.

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          And if they live in a country with no PSN support they absolutely should get a refund, even though they agreed to having a PSN account when they bought the game.

          It was plainly communicated the account was needed so getting mad after the fact because they didn’t read and still agreed to the provision is on them.

          And so be mad at Sony specifically? But they are okay with Steam having their data and selling it? Do they also not use a smart phone? Do they drive a car made in the last 4 years? Do they use credit cards? Loyalty cards? The outrage over their data use by Sony specifically is ridiculous when everything else is also siphoning the same information for no benefit to them.

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            And so be mad at Sony specifically? But they are okay with Steam having their data and selling it? Do they also not use a smart phone? Do they drive a car made in the last 4 years? Do they use credit cards? Loyalty cards? The outrage over their data use by Sony specifically is ridiculous when everything else is also siphoning the same information for no benefit to them.

            Damn, you only missed the chance for the if you got nothing to hide argument.

            If I buy a smartphone, and choose to use Android and Google, I get the benefit of all the stuff Google provides me, by my choice. I can cancel my account, and buy an iPhone next. That’s fine for me, because I chose to do that to use the benefits. If I use a credit card for all my purchases comfortably in one place, then it’s my choice. I can swap to another payment method or bank anytime. That’s fine for me, because I chose to do that to use the benefits.

            If I’m forced to create an account that does absolutely nothing for me, then I’d be pissed. Not to speak about people in countries without PSN. Where’s that written, and why did they happily sell the game to people they knew they’ll lock out? Where’s the announcement that a refund policy will be implemented for such cases?

            There’s a HUGE fucking difference between your Sony bootlicking arguments you post in every thread about this, and the actual impact of Sonys actions.

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    Okay so I must be missing something. Could someone explain to me why exactly this, of all things, is getting the nuclear backlash? It’s not like they’re adding a subscription charge or new microtransactions, you just need to have an account.

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      The account link was optional, but somewhere they have written that the PSN account will be required at a later stage, seemingly due to issues at launch. Now, people who are living in a country where PSN is not available (which are quite a lot actually) will no longer be able to play, neither to refund, since the launch is months ago.

      So it’s way more than just having yet another account, which is especially ridiculous in the case of PSN for Steam PC games.

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        Okay so THAT makes sense, people for whom a PSN account is simply impossible will not be able to play, THAT is worth being mad about. But we are absolutely not just seeing outrage from players in countries where they CAN’T have a PSN account, we’re seeing outrage from people who could and just don’t want to.

        What I’m trying to understand is why. I get that it’s a greedy data-grab from Sony that is fully not necessary, but also… it’s just not a big ask. They’re not asking for your credit card, they don’t want your social security number, I don’t even think there’s anything keeping you from telling them that your name is “Bofa Deeznutz.” I get wanting to control your data, and I would absolutely suggest a randomly generated super-strong password, but it just seems to me like everyone so angry that they’re quitting just… has a pretty easy fix for that.

        So for MOST of us, it really, really is just having yet another account. The few who genuinely don’t have that option are right to be angry, but for most of us it really just seems like an overreaction.

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          Yeah, and yet I’m on PC using Steam. If I’d wanted PSN, I’d bought a Playstation. The same secondary account bullshit applies to Ubisoft, Origin, and all of their buddies. Honestly, Steam should simply refuse to list games that require that, since they could simply use your account, but yeah, money.

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      It works just fine without it, so the reason playstation are enforcing has nothing to do with making the game better and something to do with data collection and them profiting from it.

      It’s a fucking idiot move, burning goodwill for probably very little actual gain

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      It’s a case of the straw that broke the camel’s back I think. People are getting sick and tired of needing an account for everything. And this is getting more attention than it otherwise would have both because of how popular the game is and the fact that the requirement is coming after launch. I’m tired of making an account for epic games, for battlenet, for microsoft, for gog, for capcom, for PlayStation Network. Especially when the game has clearly been functioning perfectly fine without it this entire time

      I think that people are finally just reaching the breaking point on this and helldivers was just in the unfortunate position of being the one that finally broke that back