Maven, a new social network backed by OpenAI’s Sam Altman, found itself in a controversy today when it imported a huge amount of posts and profiles from the Fediverse, and then ran AI analysis to alter the content.

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    17 days ago

    I was confused why a package manager would need to import posts from a social network.

    Why name a new product the same as a very popular existing product?

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    17 days ago

    That’s why I keep saying it’s pointless to defederate corpos. They’ll just scrape everything before you notice.

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      17 days ago

      Defederation is more about not being flooded with 1000x more users than the Fediverse currently has

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        17 days ago

        So far we only have a corpo fedi-twitter in form of Threads. In that case non-corpo instance user has to specifically follow someone before their content is federated so that sounds like a bit overblown issue.

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            16 days ago

            There’s no real harm in that unless they spam, at which point those accounts can be banned which shouldn’t overwhelm moderators.

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    17 days ago

    Am I misunderstanding this, or did they just fuck up the integration so it’s one way with a plan to make it two ways after, and the AI alteration is just sentiment analysis on whatever they took?

    • Sean Tilley@lemmy.worldOP
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      They kind of fucked up everything in approaching this by not talking to the community and collecting feedback, making dumb assumptions in how the integration was supposed to work, leaking private posts, running everything through their AI system, and neglecting to represent the remote content as having came from anywhere else.

      The other thing is that Maven’s whole concept is training an AI over and over again on the platform’s posts. Ostensibly, this could mean that a lot of Fediverse content ended up in the training data.

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    15 days ago

    Does Maven have anything to do with AI despite being backed by a dude who works for open AI?

    • Sean Tilley@lemmy.worldOP
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      15 days ago

      Yes, the entire platform trains itself on posts within its platform to make algorithmic decisions and present it to users. Instead of likes or follows, you just have that.

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        15 days ago

        But it doesn’t actually produce content that’s AI generated by an LLM model?