The fix is simple, just raise taxes! I pay enough in taxes, I pay for my fair share. I would rather end social security and have a private retirement account. Increasing my taxes, once again just shows what a scam it is.

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    We should abandon elderly people to destitution and grow homeless encampments, for what? So you can retire on a fatter cushion?

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        Lol, if anyone’s getting scammed it’s me! People often collect more social security than they put in. I’ve only been paying into since I began working, and have another 30 or so years before I can start collecting.

        So, yes, we should continue paying out social security because our entire society is a scam. It’s the least we can do.

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          our entire society is a scam

          I’m glad you’re honest about social security and new deal policies. Though I don’t understand why you’d want to double down on them.

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            I’m glad you’re honest about social security and new deal policies.

            Then I’m sorry to disappoint because it’s not fair to attribute such beliefs to me, particularly about the new deal policies, which led to the idealized American past that modern folks pine after, when I didn’t mention them.

            But since you brought 'em up, we should definitely double down on the new deal policies rather than continue to role them back. Lina Khan’s renewed anti-trust efforts are a good, strong first step, but we definitely need way more.

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              which led to the idealized American past that modern folks pine after, when I didn’t mention them. I don’t think many people idolize the great depression. WW2 ended the great depression.

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                WW2 ended the great depression.

                TIL. There’s an obvious question though of whether the economic demand of hunting Nazis ended the great depression or some other economic or social policies or a combo of several.

                I guess there’s no way we’ll ever know.

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        That is the issue. The system doesn’t work. It is just a wealth transfer which I am against.

        I would support taking the 12% and putting it into a private retirement account.

        It is unfair to ask the top 5% or 50% to pay for the bottom 50%. I already pay more than my fair share of taxes. People won’t take taxation seriously until they feel the pain. Spreading the pain across everyone may cause people to stop demanding more spending.

        We have a spending problem in this country and it can’t be solved by taxation.

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            7 months ago

            How do they do it in Canada and Europe? I seriously doubt they’re pushing 'em out into the ocean like, “Go be with the seals! We’ll miss you!”

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                Uhh, well, I support voluntary euthanasia. People should have every right to end their lives on their terms.

                It’s the same for elective abortion for me: people should have every right to bring life into the world on their terms, too.

                But that still wouldn’t solve the social security problem…

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                  Social security would best be solved by private retirement accounts. That would solve the problem quickly.

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                    What do you mean by “solved”? Because, obviously, a lack of social security couldn’t possibly function as the program does as it exists.