• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    RCS is the wrong one to use, since it is not an open enough standard for there to be a single FOSS RCS app on Android. Something like Matrix or the Signal protocol would be better.

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      2 months ago

      Seriously? Matrix and signal already exists… So you can use them today instead of RCS to your heart’s desire.

      • m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I think they mean it more as it’s not only gonna be Google but Apple who are going to be shoving RCS down their throats of people wether they want it or not by shipping it as default.

        On the other hand, the era when corporations cared even the tiniest bit for open standards in instant messaging was gone long ago. Now all instant messaging is a complete mess, we users have to deal with a myriad of apps and protocols that in the end are doing the same thing for the sake of “privacy”, and RCS will not fix that. Nor Signal, truth be told.

        I yearn the glory days of multi-protocol IM apps like Pidgin and Trident on Android (though +IM seems to still be a thing) - when you could use whatever you wanted without “missing features” or risking to be banned.

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        2 months ago

        The blindingly obvious thing that you’re missing is that others aren’t using it…

        If Apple and Google suddenly adopted it, it would instantly become a new standard in communication.

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    2 months ago
    1. why an ios article on c/android, 2) why RCS? SMS was a good system for what it did, so does that automatically create an obligation to mess it up?
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      2 months ago
      1. Most Android phones use RCS, so it’s on-subject here since most of us don’t pay attention to iPhone news - and is welcomed news because of #2’s answer

      2. You ever been in a low or no signal area, but have wifi, and try to text an iPhone user? Ever try to send/receive photos/videos with an iPhone and they look like garbage? Tired of getting SMS’s in group chats of “Mom loved ‘Please poop in the toilet next time, we are tired of cleaning it up’” instead of it just “hearting” the SMS message? A lot of new tech coming out today started from something that “was good” and was built on to make it better.

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        2 months ago

        The thing about SMS is that it sometimes worked in low signal situations where voice and internet didn’t get through. That is a virtue that shouldn’t be given up easily. If anything its reliability should be enhanced. It’s fine to also support a fancier chat scheme as well, but a robust, 1-to-1 text-only mode is important.

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          Right, I haven’t seen any of them say they are doing away with SMS. Even Android who has RCS in place also has SMS along side it, RCS is just an enhancement.

          Even with RCS on both major platforms in the near future, a lot of automations and companies will continue to utilize SMS, and I’d bet that’s true for a long time.

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            2 months ago

            Ah ok. I only use SMS in very basic ways, so if it’s going to stay around then I’m glad. Thanks.

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          2 months ago

          At least with Google messages, you can still send normal SMS if your RCS chat can’t go through. I think there’s an option for it to automatically resend as SMS if RCS fails, too.

          I guess there’s no way of knowing if SMS will eventually drop out of fashion, but it would be good to keep around so it probably will stay around as a back up

          Edit: well, I didn’t see the other response say basically what I said, oops