• Flax@feddit.uk
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    16 days ago

    I have the same question for the opposite as well. Or for being for abortion and also vegan.

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      16 days ago

      A (human) mother that carries a growing fetus is a living being. A pig, dog or a cow as well. They feel physically and emotionally and can be hurt.

      A fetus is, up to a certain point, just a slab of meat.

      As a vegan I don’t care about slabs of meat, I care about living beings and I think we shouldn’t hurt them.

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          16 days ago

          so you’re anti pain. that’s awesome, there’s a ton of socialist policies I’m sure you support wholeheartedly.

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              16 days ago

              free healthcare and medical procedures for everyone including prisoners, covering all prescription drugs, free school lunches, decommodifying housing and abolishing landlords, severely limiting the police in favor of various civil servants for most cases, strict gun control and red flag laws, reducing cars in favor of alternative transportation methods and public transit, redesigning cities into 15 minute cities to facilitate that, and I can go on for a long time but you get the gist

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                15 days ago

                free healthcare and medical procedures for everyone including prisoners,

                Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

                covering all prescription drugs,

                Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

                free school lunches,

                Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

                decommodifying housing

                Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

                abolishing landlords,

                I believe landlords should exist but in limited circumstances. I.E., your nice old man using a house for his retirement fund who treats his tenants well and gives them a fair price for it. I am completely against corporate and/or foreign landlords who are exploiting people for profit.

                severely limiting the police in favor of various civil servants for most cases,

                Depends on circumstances. A good well trained police force is good, but police shouldn’t be used as therapists. If a problem can be fixed more effectively by not throwing more police at it, then I’m for not throwing police at it.

                strict gun control

                Yes

                red flag laws,

                No idea what this means, apologies

                reducing cars in favor of alternative transportation methods and public transit,

                Yes, and one of my main Christian influences in my life was a civil servant who advocated and worked for this

                redesigning cities into 15 minute cities to facilitate that,

                Yes. That’s a great idea.

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                  cool. I think you’re wrong about abortion on grounds of personal freedom, but at least you’re not a hypocrite.

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      16 days ago

      I’m a non vegan dude but this is gonna be my easiest argument… here goes:

      consent.

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          the fetus is not a person. even if it were it doesn’t matter. what matters is that it lives in the mother’s body and the mother has to consent to what happens to her body. you can’t (or shouldn’t be able to) compel people to do anything with their body, including to keep others alive.

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      Well, one difference is that the prisoner is not housed inside an unwilling woman’s womb. That’s not where steaks and pork chops come from either. Hope that helps.