if the original statement is useless (it’s not a question, so i’m not repeating it) then my question should be more useful in the context of that useless statement, considering i have a specific word removed that changes the entire meaning of the question.
I have a lot of experience with people trying to convince me of things.
how much experience do you have with people convincing you of things?
hey vegans, cool fact, plant based diets are vastly more efficient and effective at feeding people than meat based diets.
Meat consumes plants to exist, most of that energy is lost. Not so much with plants.
Just start telling people this shit lmao. Who cares about morality when you can pretend to be saving the environment instead.
im here, and i do enjoy a good ponder, unfortunately the political right and some of the political left have consumed 100% of my philosophical pondering over the last 5 or so years.
The fundamental problem here in regards to feeding a cat a vegan diet is that you are forcing something onto an existing sentient (to some degree) being.
You as a human could live on rice and water exclusively, but it would most certainly not be optimal. The same is generally true for most living beings. The ultimate question here, once we get past feeding a pet whatever diet, is that pet ownership is to some degree, probably unethical at the source. Feeding them inherently brings up an ethical dilemma, as they are not a human, they cannot make a conscious choice about how their food is acquired. You as a vegan could theoretically raise and kill game to feed a cat which is probably the most ethical solution here, but that’s not likely to be popular. The alternative being farm grown game, although it’s likely to be off cuts and byproduct as humans eat the most desired parts, so the end result is probably fairly insignificant, unless you’re feeding your cat a rich mans diet or something.
there is most certainly some level of ethical behavior to follow in this line, theoretically if the being is getting all of the nutrition they need and isn’t struggling to survive in that sense, it really shouldn’t matter, but at the end of the day, i guess it starts to come back to the ethics behind pet ownership more than anything.
IDK to me it seems like feeding a carnivore a wholly vegan diet is probably ethically dubious at best. Most vegans would probably agree here, ironically. Feeding livestock a generic grain mix is probably not the most ethical decision.
i would also like to like lemmy.
Unfortunately it’s userbase seems to have a fairly significant infection of stupidity. (also the lemmy platform is just, underbaked, in general)
But i’m starting to think my standards of not being completely uneducated and spouting literal bullshit on things, is too high for most of the population…
I think i just have a problem with all of humanity, to be honest.