I like this thread because two people finished a conversation with reasonable candor without shitting on eachother over a basic misunderstanding and doubling down after realizing they were on the same side but had already gone too far.
I like this thread because two people finished a conversation with reasonable candor without shitting on eachother over a basic misunderstanding and doubling down after realizing they were on the same side but had already gone too far.
For this I usually go with 27. Trade slightly more cortex development while only losing about 3% more of my collagen. So like one crowfoot and a forehead crease, but no more. Eyes are also stable enough for eye surgery but not going into retinal decline like in the 30s. Basically your late 20s rides off all your physical generation for a lot of different soft tissues being peak into ~25 but not having caused the damage that starts to build up and cause side effects in your 30s.
I think they meant stuff like pre workout mixes and post workout mixes. Hyper processed proteins, BCAAs, Caffiene, Beta Alanine, argenine, creatine, taurine, etc… followed by a chaser of a dozen or so pills like ZMA. Then of course the HGH, T, Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, & CJC-1295.
Aside from the wealthiest, body builders generally destroy their hearts and bodies filling them up with dozens of cheap suspect supplements that don’t have solid lab testing. And they are always pushing new frontiers on shady pseudoscience to get a fresh edge with whatever side effects that has on longevity.
Arnold got out before that part of the scene got super out of control. But even with him, you can see it in the way his forehead and gut shape have changed over time. The very clear signs he’s juiced, just probably under a lot more perfect control from medical professionals due to his wealth.