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Quotes from one of his speeches:

…we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat….

So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah….

All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies….

…every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs.

As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

And even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the mujahidin recently forced Bush to resort to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan…

And it all shows that the real loser is…you.

It is the American people and their economy.

Do these not have emergency shut-off switches? And why is he sitting so close to it? So many safety problems here

Yeah, that’s a totally fair perspective. I gave up on the Democratic party a long time ago, partly because their current lack of fight is exactly what I expect from them. I totally understand why people voted for Harris, but I disagree with their strategy. I feel like continuing to support the Democrats is like digging yourself out of a hole: No matter how much you dig, you’re still stuck in the hole.

I see Trump as a symptom of something bigger. Yes, I’m angry that he won, but I’m more angry at the ecosystem allows him to stay electable. And I think the Democrats are a large part of why that ecosystem is the way it is. Instead of cleaning things up, and fighting for their voter-base, they chose to build the systems that Trump is using. There’s an old saying: Democrats clean and load the gun, Republicans shoot it.

I desperately want the Democrats to be a party I believe in. But I after years of seeing them in action, I’m convinced that abandoning them is the right call. And I know I’m not alone. Look at how many people gave up on the Dems at the election, and how low their polling is right now. I think all of that abandonment is well deserved.

Some people want to try and fix the broken party, and I think that’s fine, I have no problem with them trying. But I think a third party is a better use of our time.

I feel like “lets keep bombing children”, or “we’re going to back a genocide harder than they are”, or “we’re going to do a better job of putting immigrants in prison” is indeed only slightly better than the Republicans position.

I voted against both of the two major parties because both the Democrats and the Republicans fight against what I want. They both are pro-genocide, pro-corporation, pro-war, etc. While I don’t think they are the same, both parties are pretty evil.

If the Republicans are a 2, the Democrats are a 3 at best. I’m looking for a 9 or a 10, and I’ll vote against both of the parties until one of them stop fighting against what I want, and start fighting for what I want.

I chose to vote 3rd party, knowing that they wouldn’t win, because I’d rather my vote be a vote against the both of them, than an endorsement of either one.

EDIT: I appreciate an honest question, trying to understand my point of view. These discussions tend to get a bit crazy, with a lot of baseless accusations and ad-hominem arguements. Thanks for taking it seriously!

I love how Democrats pretend it’s not their fault for running terrible candidates with awful policies, that people don’t want to vote for.

Maybe you should spend your effort getting the Democrats to realize that running awful candidates like Kamala is why they keep losing. I’d love to be able to side the Democrats, but they keep putting forward bad candidates with terrible platforms.

Oh look it’s another account that doesn’t read things that I’ve written, then accuses me of stuff. I’ve already mentioned how terrible the Republicans and Trump are, and that I think the Democrats would have been better.

Incorrect! I too, voted against the fascist. But I also voted against genocide, which was apparently too hard for you.

I hope you enjoy your endorsement of genocide as you’re rounded up by trumps gestapo.

No one here is rooting for genocide

Literally the Democratic leadership is. They’re even doing more: they are funding it.

It’s not good, but it’s better.

I agree it’s better, but it’s still not good enough for me to vote for. I understand why people held their nose and voted for Harris, but I was unwilling to do the same. We have different standards. I’ve seen the Democrats continuously fight against the policies that I want, and so I chose ‘nah’ over them. So did a lot of other people, so maybe they should incorporate that into their strategy next time.

if you want to actually mitigate this shit storm as best you can instead of letting idealogical purity fuck you over even more.

I find this hilarious coming in support of a party who chose the ideological purity of genocide and money, instead of chosing a popular stance and winning the election.

Actually, we know that Biden wasn’t trying. They just came out and admitted that. And we didn’t have any hope with Kamala, because she was clearly explicit that she was going to continue to support Israel.

And congrats on voting for genocide. I’m sure that everyone in the US who is losing their rights are happy that your party chose genocide, over winning what should have been an easy election.

Yeah, that is how it works. I don’t fight against genocide because I think I’m going to win, I fight against genocide because I think it’s evil. You may be OK with genocide, but I’m not.

Additionally, genocide is just 1 out of ~50 other things that I’m against, that Harris stood for. Why should I vote for a candidate that’s proud to stand with the Cheneys? Or a candidate that wants to continue to be a “leathal fighting force”? Why should I vote for a candidate that thought bombing children was OK? Or a candidate that proudly stood behind a rapist?

Yes, I proudly stand against genocide, and all of those other things. Maybe the real issue is that the Democrats shouldn’t run in favor of them.

No, I didn’t vote for either. It was pretty easy to vote against Harris, while also voting against this. Maybe next time the Dems should run a candidate that at least pretends to care about what the voters want. That tends to help in elections.

I’m happy she lost, but I’m also sad that Trump won. Why should our choice be between to pro-genocide candidates?

Maybe the next time the Dems should try something new and run a candidate that campaigns on what the voters want.

Yeah, which is why we loudly told the dem to stop running an unpopular campaign. It seems like she decided helping out with a genocide was more important than winning the election

I sure have. I’m not sure how that’s relevant to the conversation.

I always find it amazing that people want to blame those that couldn’t stomach to vote for genocide. Instead of blaming the ones with the money, the power, and the platform that chose to hand the election to Trump in order to keep supporting genocide.

Which 3rd party voter said that Trump would be better? I don’t think I’ve ever seen them say that.

I’ve only heard liberals who apparently are in support of genocide say that.