It’s not about my comments, it’s mods getting into debates over them and then promising to retaliate. I’m talking about a pattern with certain mods

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🙄 there are communist countries that are not Russia or China, just like there are capitalist countries that aren’t the United States.

Yeah, you’d have to pick a country that wouldn’t deport you though… that your country’s passport will get you into easily.

Feel like I mentioned again and again that I’m talking about his campaign politics. I took a look at his 2008 campaign policies to see if I was misremembering anything and it’s pretty centrist to me, even his health care plan. And like I mentioned, he explicitly did not support gay marriage which at the time would have been an easy progressive signalling, but he either truly opposed gay marriage or he was trying to cater to a broader audience.

Like I said, he had a convincing image of idealism but not the politics to back it up, and you are saying AOC could win because she has progressive politics. She would need the flashy campaign to back it up, and so many people just hate her I don’t think it would work.

Anyway I’m just saying the same things over and over again in different wording and it’s getting tired, respond if you want, idc, but I’m going to stop here.

I think I was pretty clear saying his campaign was based on the idea and image of idealism, but his politics did not reflect that, not his actual politics or his promised politics in 2008. You’re showing me this poster as if I didn’t directly mention the art and sloganing as a major reason for his win.

AOC may have idealistic policy positions, but her public image is so meme-ified I don’t think she could successfully do the Hope thing that Obama did. Obama was much less well known of a politician when he ran.

I’m not talking about catering to Conservatives, I’m talking about the cultural campaign of meme-ification of AOC that conservatives have been waging for years, that could be convincing to moderates and moderate Democrats.

The only successful Democratic presidential candidates in the last twenty years have been Obama and Biden. Obama won because he has a lot of natural charisma, and came along with a story of having our first black president. Biden won as a reaction to the first Trump presidency. Neither were really particularly idealistic Democrats… Obama did not even express public support gay marriage when he came into office, he had pretty centrist positions overall and gave off an idealistic message with campaign art, speeches and slogans, but his actual policy was not especially progressive.

So Obama won as a biracial black man with the conservative stance against gay marriage, and overall very center-liberal politics, but flashy idealistic messaging.

If progressive idealism had been working, we would have had Bernie presidency by now tbh

I think it’s AOC, but conservatives have a disdain for her that I worry would be Hillary part 2.

AOC is a lightning rod for conservatives, moreso due to sexism imho than her politics because she gets way more hate than Bernie even though they’re politically very similar. She’s not a good choice just because of that. I don’t think the general population of the US is ready for two women on a ticket, esp two women of color. Could make an exciting ticket in the way Obama was, but only if Kamala proves to be as engaging of a speaker. Which, honestly I think she’s a good orator but a lot of people will have trouble seeing past the fact she is a woman, and Kamala will unconsciously or consciously have all the usual biases against women in power (bossy, crazy, etc).

I honestly had no idea who Beshear is but just looking him up, I think he’d be an okay pick. Looks like a boring white guy, has solid liberal track record. I feel like a white guy who supports Palestine would be better, Kamala has a lot of pushback from leftists from her time as DA in CA. Idk who that would be.

Unless they run another primary, Kamala is the best choice IMHO. Already tied to the Biden ticket, so it would feel less like the DNC is hand-picking whoever they want as a candidate. She polls well. Can get creative with the VP.

Very telling how many people are hesitant to name specific mods.

Just because someone has a personality disorder doesn’t mean they are incapable of doing their jobs. That’s an ableist assumption.

Don’t take it as an insult, if you keep being ableist that would be grounds for insults, but I’m honestly just letting you know.

I’m “combative” because everyone picks fights with me, because my political opinions aren’t popular here (I’m leftist, and end up arguing with a lot of transphobes as well). Mods shouldn’t use political disagreements as grounds for retaliation.

My modlog has so many taken down comments bc the other day I went through and quoted other ppls comments that were taken down, asking for accountability because I thought they were taken down unjustly. I still think they were. Mods have since mentioned to me ways I can link comments without quoting them, that won’t get my comments taken down.

Thanks for your creepy concern. My point stands regardless of my comment history, as evidenced by so other ppl sharing they have had similar experiences. Cool you want to discredit me due to my political opinions, and tendency to question the way mods operate.

It’s no different here, the dynamics are the same. Volunteer labor will skew towards the most privileged or retired bc they have more free time , not the most capable.

You are just lying about your class status, you already admitted to living a lifestyle that matches with the upper percent of people.

Yeah, it’s notable that computer programmers are also over-represented in this survey.

I wonder if there isn’t a lack of people brewing outside the rich white man demographic… but more that they inhabit different social worlds so they aren’t seeing each other.

Love how this one is upvoted 😭 like they’re saying “yeah 😀”

I have not seen that episode ☹️

Why was this downvoted it’s like common knowledge