• Sorgan71@lemmy.world
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    Yes and its totally reasonable to excpect that from a mental health professional. Literally everyone else but you has to be responsible for your mental health right?

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    yes AND please pleeeeease try meds if you and your doctor think it could potentially help…

    …but also yes

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    This has been so much of my problem with therapy. It’s the shit situation that needs to be fixed. If I was currently in a home that belonged to me, knew that I would have food next month, and wasn’t terrified of being arrested for now carrying “wrong” documentation… I don’t think I’d need therapy. I’ve got a fuck load of coping mechanisms, but journaling and art don’t beat hunger and fascism.

    Weed just seems better than anything else I’ve tried. It makes various physical pains go away. It makes food palatable. It makes sex better. It makes every film high cinema. It unlocks creative freedom. Video games are like stepping into a new world.

    I don’t understand why replacing 50 mg of THC with whatever mg of Wellbutrin or Lexapro or whatever is the “better” solution. I don’t understand why CBT is pushed as the “gold standard” to the point where practitioners will lie on intake and say they don’t push it.

    And as someone who has taught research design and statistics, taken graduate courses in social science research… so much of the base frameworks in psychology have very little evidence. Things like the Stanford Prison Experiment and Milgram just were not good (or ethical) research. Freud was so full of shit it’s funny that his name is a letter away from Fraud - look into how he treated the victims of sexual assault. A lot of surveys and instruments have questionable validity (cough, cough IQ)

    Fuck, I was helping a girl work through a psychology textbook, and it basically claimed that girls didn’t get autism because they are naturally more empathic.

    In southern states too - the bulk of providers are the Dr. Phil type. “Tough love,” hypocrisy, and dubious sexual ethics. Institutions are prisons. Most mental health crises end in jail.

    Mental health care is seriously fucked and maybe that’s why the situation is so shit.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    TBF there is something to be said for coping with and learning to live in the world you inhabit, not the world you wish it to be.

    Doesn’t mean you should stop trying to make the better future happen, but contribute, don’t just wait for it to magically happen.

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      The issue isn’t the fact that the world is bad; it’s the fact that there are evil people out there actively trying to make it worse (Trump, Putin, etc). I feel like it would be a lot easier to cope with a bad world compared to an evil one.

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        This is what is breaking my mental health.

        Life is not guaranteed to be good, nature is cruel and has no rhyme or reason. People die and suffer in horrific ways every day because of nature.

        Why the fuck are we adding to that cruelty!?

        The chaos of the natural order of the universe sucks and you’ve got to learn to cope with that. But I’ve always found that side of life easy to accept because it is so inevitably universally unavailable.

        I was born with a genetic illness, it causes lifelong disability due to structural deformity, but can also just randomly cause fatal aneurysms in young people. That’s nature, that sucks, but hey, what are you going to do? Figure out how to do what you need to do to live and live it.

        But then I’m born into a country with no disability discrimination laws, and no right to access laws. Fortunately we had public healthcare and public disability services, and public welfare services, and when I was younger a disability act was finally brought in (though it’s often just lip service)

        Growing up I felt safe and secure knowing I had a good social support system…but the public disability services shut down and was replaced by an insurance model, the public healthcare has been functionally split to a semi public copay system and a private paid system, and the welfare pension is so far below the poverty line that people on a disability pension don’t earn enough money to meet the eligibility for public housing.

        (yes, You can be too poor, for public/social housing.)

        And it’s one thing for law and legislation to lag behind the needs of the people, it’s another thing altogether when an individual or small group of individuals in power systematically impose laws to remove the support and resources you used to have, for barely no more reason than “they want to”.

        I can’t help but feel that a significant portion of my suffering is the result of the few people in the local conservative government that shut down the public disability service providers because it was “costing too much” … Even though the insurance model they replaced it with costs the government more and supports less people than the previous system, and supports them less effectively.

        And how do you live with that?

        Like it’s one thing for nature to have cursed me to suffer, but a human being heard my story, and countless stories like mine, and still said “nah, fuck em” when it came to vote.

        We are living with psychopaths and sociopaths in complete control over our lives. The suffering is happening for a reason, and the reason is that those who are causing the suffering are enjoying the situation (because it gives them money, power, influence, or straight up sadism)

        How the fuck do you reconcile that and “learn to sit with your emotions” in one CBT session and in the very next session my therapist is going to teach me about “enforcing my boundaries”… How do I enforce my personal boundary to get the homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic and ableist government to stop abusing me? Oh, I don’t, I sit with that emotion.

        I can’t afford the pills they recommend.

  • pyre@lemmy.world
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    maybe your problem is that you think that’s what the medication is for.

    is there a special kind of therapy for being a dumbass

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    I’ve tried countless prescriptions. None of them did anything helpful and a handful of them were a nightmare to come off of. Doctor’s literally just throwing random pills at me telling me to “try this one and see if it helps.”

    Nothing helps.

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      It is wild to me that it’s just a guessing game for them, when were the ones stuck with a new pill and all the possible side effects that come with (not to mention the prescription cost) just for it to probably not work, and then onto the next pill on the list.

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    L4D was a phenomenal game. I wish I could go back in time and get a group of four of us together to play the way we used to.

    • Naz@sh.itjust.works
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      There’s new games out with the same vibe, try uh, Helldivers 2 or that WH40K: “Darktide”

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        Yes because there’s no difference between challenging the profit motive of the healthcare industry and conspiracy theories, you fucking dipshit.

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        There’s a difference between conspiracy theories and having an analysis of incentives and structures.

        There doesn’t need to be a conspiracy for profit seeking corporations to decide not to invest their money into something they think won’t return as much profit.

        As for everything else staying shitty, why would corporations spend money on lobbying and campaign contributions if they didn’t expect it to make them a profit? Obviously those corporations want less taxes, less regulations that might cost them money to comply with, and the more of the economy that is privatized, the more opportunities capitalists have for making more profits.

        That’s not a conspiracy theory, that’s a basic understanding of economics and political economy plus some history.

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    Oh no, a solution that helps me to not be a blob, laying in my bed, womdering if should i even get up. The horrors of therapy actually helping me to get shit done.

    God, i hate anti-therapy or anti-meds posting.

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      I mean, I’m anti-meds for treating exogenic issues when something can be done for those exogenic issues.

      If I’m sitting at home with the heater on and I start feeling warm and flushed, I wouldn’t take an ibuprofen (as an anti-pyretic) to bring my temperature down, I’ll turn the heater off.

      It’s the same for mental health, if the sole source of the stress/sorrow is external, medication is nothing more than a bandaid, which is better than nothing if the exogenic influence is outside your individual control (which it often is)… But we are at a point where the majority of people with mental health issues are experiencing a level of exogenic influence and there are enough of us that if we organised we could change the factors that are causing or worsening our mental health symptoms.

      So it bears talking about, is medication always appropriate?

      Medication is important, especially for endogenic conditions, and medication is life saving. But if you have exogenic depression and the meds aren’t working, the new prescription is protest.

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      Nothing here is anti therapy.

      And I wouldn’t interpret it as anti meds either. It’s just pointing out the absurdity of a society that’s so miserable it forces people to seek medical attention just to exist. Any rational society would change until people are happy.

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      I don’t think it’s either of those things. We all need to cope. The meme just laments that coping is necessary

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      Both can be true at the same time. Therapy and meds can be wonderful to help create a better world than the soul-crushing dystopia we’re currently heading for.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “Oh no, a deadly pandemic. Best I can do is inject dead virus to trick your body to improve its immune system”

    That’s what you sound like… 🙄

    (A treatment that works is a good treatment method.)

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    They don’t even do that. They just take the edge off enough that I don’t actually try to throw myself off a bridge.