Living in the States has me genuinely frightened. I’m not so naive as to suppose it’s not always been rough, but it’s clear we’ve entered a qualitatively different era. The moderate wing of fascism has died, and barbarism is all that remains.

I want to fight back in a substantive way, even if it’s small. I want to participate in institutions which protect the vulnerable, myself included. I don’t want to lock my doors and peek out the windows, but I know better than to engage in adventurist, individual “resistance.” I also don’t want to be in a social club where we sit and congratulate each other on having the right opinions. I’m past wanting to be on the “right side of history,” where I content myself with personally disagreeing with the nightmare we live in. Something needs to be done; the window for taking action is swinging shut.

I have almost no experience in organizing. I’ve attended a handful of protests which mostly felt like a venting of frustrations for everyone there. I’ve associated with a few comrades who had good intentions, but never accomplished much. That’s about it.

How do I actually go about being a part of something effective?

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    I certainly hope we don’t see liberal use of nuclear weapons. I’d rather my Chinese comrades not die and if I’m being honest I’d prefer not to die too.

    I don’t think nukes will be held back as a last resort in the coming wars.

    China has a no first use policy. China is run by a communist party (a moral party against mass death). They know the US is deranged and dangerous. The US might use nuclear weapons but only if they have confidence they’re going to get the drop on China and suffer in the words of Buck Turgidson “limited and therefore acceptable losses compared to them therefore we win”.

    Actual ICBMs arent as big of a threat

    They are an enormous threat. Interception is difficult and frankly Russia is ahead of China on this. The US has 4000 warheads, penetration rate of as I mentioned even 2-3% of those getting past interceptors would be enough to kill more than a hundred million Chinese people, would be enough to cripple Chinese industry, would be enough to plunge China into misery and devastation and knock them out as a world power for years if not a decade or more. (As would successful nuclear strikes on major US cities knock them out of consideration for a similar period though the US has the advantage of having its armies divided across the world in various bases as well as vassals they can call upon to rebuild some sort of Euro-American empire project)

    Nuclear war is not something you just brush off.

    as the nuclear armed sub fleet the US has, and the Chinese have shown they have a very effective method of tracking these subs recently.

    One speculative paper that is not guaranteed to actually work as well in practice and which would require an extensive sensor net over the SCS to make work which China flatly does not presently have. Besides the fact, they could launch from off the east coast of Korea, off the coast of Russia, off the coast of Japan.

    And if the US does a nuclear strike it will be a surprise attack, the US will not telegraph to China that they’re going to nuke them, China will not have time to sink these subs. And guess what seeking out and trying to sink nuclear missile subs is a threat to nuclear deterrence and if China did that first the US might very well react with nuclear retaliatory strikes (or strikes of conventional nature aimed at taking out Chinese nuclear capabilities at which point the PLA has to assume it’s part of a full scale attack and launch accordingly which will prompt full American launch response) and the CPC military commission planners know this. Thus it would be pointless unless China was doing a first strike trying to decapitate US capabilities which I doubt they’d do.

    The bottom line as I see it is this:

    1. If the US gets some sort of ability to suppress Chinese nuclear retaliation they’ll use their own nuclear weapons to destroy China, occupy and enslave or at least suppress and encircle and starve her remaining people. If this happens China won’t be invading the US, others might, of which Chinese irregular (not PLA) forces might make up some part but not a bulk of which given the big ocean they’d need to cross.

    2. If the US doesn’t get a suppression ability but China does, then the US won’t use nukes, won’t egg China to use nukes and will use other methods such as encirclement, sanctions, blockade in all but name via command of financial institutions instead all while crying and pissing themselves that China is going to kill them all tomorrow.

    3. If neither the US nor China gets a reliable method to suppress the other’s nuclear response then China will not launch first. The US may be deranged enough to launch on China in a sneak attack but if they do China’s response will remove the US from the picture, there won’t be much left to invade, dying, starving, miserable people in a wasteland is what the US will be and there will be little point invading it, if something is going to be invaded in that situation it will be Europe with America’s left-over military assets trying to regain world hegemony. But in this final picture importantly China will not be playing a big role because hundreds of millions of Chinese will be dead, the Chinese nation like the American one will be smashed and spend decades recovering during which stronger powers like Russia and India will try and invade and carve off resources or impose neo-colonial arrangements on the Chinese people.

    2 is a likely win condition for China and for communism. 3 is a potential win condition IF the US doesn’t go nuclear. If it does, socialism loses, the US loses, but capitalism in the aftermath of all the devastation has a good chance of continuing and winning to reign in barbarity over a climate change devastated world.

    I actually think we will see the first nuke deployed soon. Within 2-3 years. Potentially in Yemen, or Gaza.

    The zionists are deranged but not enough to want a nuclear weapon going off in their backyard and what they see as their property. Their present methods of genocide are more than enough and the US is giving them adequate cover. They’ll probably succeed in bullying Egypt or someone to take enough Gazans that they can do what they want. Fact is nuking Muslims off the face of the earth like that will still up a lot of Muslim rage and anger compared to just killing them with normal bombs and starvation as they’ve been doing and will solidify resistance and hatred of the zionist entity even among Europeans who will be unable to paint such an act of naked massacre by a strong power as somehow acceptable. It would make them a pariah state and undo so much hasbara propaganda. Nuking Yemen would be a terror tactic and probably a pointless one given how the country’s armed forces are structured, it’s not like they can nuke a city and take out a bunch of weapons plants there given how Ansar Allah operates. If they’re going to use terror tactics on Yemen that amount to war crimes chemical and biological weapons seem a more practical idea and give the US more complete plausible deniability compared to a nuke.

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      Actual ICBMs arent as big of a threat

      Where is this suddenly coming from? I think this is the second time this month I’ve seen someone arguing that nukes aren’t actually that bad. I thought most people agreed that nuclear weapons are devastating things that should be avoided at all cost. I really hope this is not becoming a common sentiment for some reason.

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        This kind of rhetoric keeps me awake at night. Nuclear weapons are one of if not the most horrific tools of warfare the human race as ever constructed.

        People say socialism or barbarism, but nuclear weapons ensure it’s socialism or extinction.

        I think since we are far removed from the use of nuclear weapons people have begun considering them simply another geopolitical factor. A thought expirement or an abstract notion.

        No they are not. They are real, and they are devastating. Any person who suggests that a nuclear strike anywhere on the world is not a serious step to the eradication of mankind should be maniacally shouted down.

        I mean this. If you hear anyone speak of using these weapons in a light manner, you should immediately lambast them as an idiot and a monster. The mention of this subject should serve as a trigger to halt the conversation from moving past that point.

        Too many people are forgetting he horrors that these weapons will bring upon the earth, and we approach a critical mass of westerners especially who I genuinely believe would end our existence in a Nuclear Holocaust becuase this view is becoming even slightly more socially acceptable.

        Nuclear science is a fascinating thing which can achieve dramatic results wherever it is employed. However in warfare, that means the anhilation of our species.