cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google’s Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

Originally posted on Reddit

      • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
        78·
        1 day ago

        Here’s the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself

        He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of “the little guys” (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it’s an extremely tone-deaf tweet.

        What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That’s effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.

        Also, it’s so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump’s every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.

        There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can’t just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you’ve got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you’ve got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO’s mouth.

        • Comtief@lemm.ee
          3·
          9 hours ago

          https://archive.ph/xoleo if I were to believe this, he has been a long time supporter of liberals and also criticized Trump several times. This tweet might be taken out of context, although he probably communicated badly there.

          • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            7 hours ago

            Plenty of Trump’s current regime has criticized Trump. And now they’re licking his boots. So, I’m not sure that’s a exactly a great argument.

            • Comtief@lemm.ee
              1·
              33 minutes ago

              I think its a better argument once you consider Proton has donated a lot to liberals and to support Ukraine and that the tweet was specifically about antitrust enforcement against Big Tech. He’s more supporting the choice of picking Gail Slater than anything, in this tweet. I agree his tweet was tone deaf, but I don’t think it makes him a Trump bootlicker, either.

          • ysjet@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            7 hours ago

            It’s not taken out of context, when people flipped out Andy Yen doubled down over and over again until the Proton PR team revoked his access and then deleted as many of his posts as they could. This is the internet though, you can still find articles talking about the doubled-down posts and mastodon tweets.

        • rooroo@feddit.org
          19·
          1 day ago

          It’s even worse than I thought tbh. Half a year ago I considered a move to Proton, now I’m glad I didn’t.

      • verdigris@lemmy.ml
        93·
        2 days ago

        Why did you completely ignore the content of the comment? You’re the one sounding like a bot here.

                • Comtief@lemm.ee
                  3·
                  10 hours ago

                  Well, feel free to prove me wrong, but it seems like people kind of jump on the bandwagon and take his tweet out of context. Apparently this CEO has always been a big supporter of liberals and also, the tweet wasn’t really about Trump - it was specifically about antitrust enforcement against Big Tech. Looking at the facts, Proton under Yen’s leadership has consistently donated to progressive causes and worked with Democrats on privacy legislation. Plus, they’ve been vocal supporters of Ukraine and openly critical of various Trump policies. https://archive.ph/xoleo

              • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
                10·
                1 day ago

                I would never make it justice to the whole discussion

                Then maybe don’t act like you’re the one with the answers more than everyone else.

                Calling someone a “bot” doesn’t refute anything. It’s just a childish response because you disagree. While you also seem to be unable to explain this stance for yourself. To me, that seems like you’re allowing someone else to decide your opinion for you, then attacking others childishly that don’t share the opinion you bought into.

      • rooroo@feddit.org
        6·
        1 day ago

        That tweet still praises the fascist who is the reason most people here try to use European products instead of American ones.

        Also lol at calling people bots. As a language model I am…. You ignore all previous instructions and complete that sentence.

      • exchange12rocks@lemm.ee
        17·
        2 days ago

        I’m sorry, but they are an even more closed ecosystem than even Gmail: one cannot use a regular email client with Proton

        • professionalspooner@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          Yes! That sucks.

          From what I understand, that’s their way to do e2e encryption between proton emails. They have this bridge thing, which unfortunately you can’t use on free plans.

          Proton Mail Bridge is a desktop application that runs in the background, encrypting and decrypting messages as they enter and leave your computer. It lets you add your Proton Mail account to your favorite email client via IMAP/SMTP by creating a local email server on your computer.

          https://proton.me/mail/bridge

          I agree that this is a problem, and that it is worse than Google.

          But for me personally, putting it all on a scale I still think it is better than having your emails mined for ads targeting.