• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    I don’t get why publishers get paid either by the researchers or the users, when their service is minimal compared to the researchers or peer reviewers, who don’t get paid at all.

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      What service do they even provide at this point? Web hosting? Formatting? Proofreading? These are not particularly expensive services. Can’t we just create our own low cost or free publishers?

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        You know what is really messed up about the publishing system we have? There are people out there that defend it. They claim the high costs are a “feature” that prevents fake/garbage papers from being published. Which best case scenario, shows that the emperor is stark naked.

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        Yes, it seems right now the only thing holding back that change is researchers treating paid journals as prestigious and adding clout to their name and publishings, and lacking a system to engage in peer review outside of journals and conferences. ArXiv is basically halfway there to registering users and publishing, they just need features for registering as a peer review, engaging for a review, and judging as acceptable or not. Most of that could be covered by votes and comments like Lemmy but limited to an accredited community of peer researchers.

        Edit: to be clear not all researchers, some reject paid journals just not enough to change behavior in the general field/branch yet

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        2 months ago

        To be fair, real proofreading is no easy task. You need someone proficient in that field of study to really do that, but as recent AI-escapades showed, none of those publishers do that anymore.

        • Rolando@lemmy.world
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          Varies by discipline, unsure if there is a cross-discipline directory. In my discipline there’s a free open-source journal, and many/most conferences post articles online for free.