• Nickel≡x(φmod7919)@feddit.org
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    5 months ago

    Yep! Lemmy loves to complain about the Democratic party, but as soon as ya mention third-party, you’re banned from everywhere for being a troll. Or Lemmy’s other fav insults: Nazi and Fascist. They’ll even say we’re paid to talk about third parties.

    At this point, Lemmy is getting what they deserve. They’ll lost next presidential election to if they don’t wake the fuck up. :)

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      18 hours ago

      Primaries are where you fall in love, the General election is where you fall in line unless you want the opposition to win.

      The folks I banned here weren’t honestly advocating third party, they were conservatives attempting to split the Democratic vote.

      Once the mask came off they were banned. I probably gave them more rope than I should have.

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      5 months ago

      Lemmy: The time has come for a new third party! One made up of honest working class people, with infinity time and money between elections to campaign starting now. Oh also you need to go from 0% to 51% in one election cycle or just scrap the whole thing.

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        18 hours ago

        So how many election cycles do we give them? Serious question.

        Look at the Green Party as a prime example:

        1996 - 0.71%
        2000 - 2.74%
        2004 - 0.10%
        2008 - 0.12%
        2012 - 0.36%
        2016 - 1.07%
        2020 - 0.26%
        2024 - 0.56%

        29 years, 8 general elections, 0 electoral college votes. Zero.

        To put that in perspective, more electoral college votes have been awarded by ACCIDENT (2004), than have been won total by the Green party in 29 years.

        More electoral college votes have been awarded by faithless electors (2016) than have been won by the Green party.

        Their best run was with Nader in 2000 and even that did not move the needle.

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            16 hours ago

            If a third party can’t win an election in nearly 30 years, it’s not really an alternative to anything. Time to let it go.

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                15 hours ago

                You let the Green party go. They can’t get 1% of the vote, haven’t won an election in any state, it’s past time to give up the illusion that they are a real party.

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                  15 hours ago

                  It sounds like they’ve been pretty insignificant. Which better idea has worked well over the last 30 years?

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                    13 hours ago

                    Taking over a major party by challenging center candidates in primaries and winning in the general elections.

                    See the Tea Party / Red Hat takeover of the Republican party.

                    Progressives need to do the same to the Democrats.