• ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        so “people won’t work if their needs are met” is patently untrue

        It’s not true or untrue for “people” as a monolith. People differ.

        Lots of people are happy to do literally nothing productive, if they could. And lots of people hate being professionally idle, so much so that they can’t stand not finding at least a part-time job, even after they’ve “retired”. At my current job, we had a 99 year old who was basically FORCED to retire (for the second time, she had ‘retired’ already, before she came to work here) by management, after she had a health scare at work. She was literally angry and grumbling about it during her retirement party, lol.

        Different people are wired differently. Nuance is important.

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      4 months ago

      Yeah they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, with nothing more then a couple of million from their parents.

      • Mocking Moniker@lemmy.world
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        It’s not fair but it’s the only way. Stewardship is hard. Business is hard and risky. People often fail to recognize the risky nature.

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          Trump has literally failed at every business ventured he has spearheaded… he is still a billionaire… where is the risk again?

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          I have no problem with people making money. Why would I have a problem with people making money if they’re successful?

          These people are not successful because of their talent, they are successful because they have money. Success breeds success and riches breed more riches. If they do well enough they can stick everything in a high interest saver account and live off the interest.

          So it’s a bit rich when they claim to be some big shot and to lecture everyone else on their secret magic talent, which is usually nothing else other than they were lucky with their birthright.

          See Donald Trump is a classic example of this. The man couldn’t think his out way out a wet paper bag, and yet he’s fabulously wealthy even if he’s lying about 90% of his income he still has more money than most people would know what to do with. Everything he is is because of his father, all of his success has been despite his personal “accomplishments” not because of them.

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      People can live comfortably and still work hard. It’s almost like poverty doesn’t encourage work, but infact only makes life more difficult and stressful in myriad ways, ultimately decreasing effective productivity.