• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    edit-2
    24 days ago

    Do labor shortages even exist? Usually when I hear this claim with respect to the US economy it’s complete bullshit.

    • grue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      59
      ·
      24 days ago

      No, there is no such thing as a labor shortage. There is only employers’ unwillingness to pay market wages.

    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      24 days ago

      Sectorial and regional labor shortages are real. In a population the size of the US, national labor shortages don’t— it’s just wages below what the labor market determines appropriate.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        24 days ago

        For example? I don’t know of a single so-called labor shortage that wouldn’t be solved by higher wages or better working conditions.

        • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          24 days ago

          Anything that requires licensure and/or certification, it’s common in medicine and the skilled trades for this reason.

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            24 days ago

            In most cases this will be easily solved by on-the-job training, but with doctors there is also the added problem of a bureaucracy that has acted deliberately to restrict the supply of doctors, so as to protect the wages and prestige of that profession. That’s not to say that these problems don’t exist, but describing them as labor shortages that can be solved simply by importing more bodies is misleading.

            • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              24 days ago

              On the job training doesn’t solve this at all. These are jobs that take significant theoretical and practical training. You can take any idiot and give them some CS classes and boom, software engineer. Nursing, MRI Technicians, CPAs, etc. need actual education and training.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            24 days ago

            all that those hoops means is that the lag to fill them is a year or two. which sounds like a long time but there’s always another graduating class coming along, if the employers are willing to pay competitive wages.

            And that’s a big fucking goddamn IF.