people have been demonizing it for most of the AD years i think but it’s quite pleasant really. are there any proven negative effects?

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    One major reason is that feminism, which deeply influences culture, posits that all men are rapists in the waiting. For an example here a quote from a prominent and influential feminist.

    “Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.”

    • Andrea Dworkin

    This chills any frank discussion of male sexuality because that would be implicit endorsement of sexual assault.

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      Ah yes, feminism, an ideology that consists solely of extremist views. I’m not even well versed in feminism and I know that Andrea Dworkin is quite extreme and is a polarizing figure.

      If you have reduced feminism to the views of a single extremist than you really need to get your shit together.

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        It doesn’t consist of all extreme views but many mainstream feminist ideology had extremists views.

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          Where did you learn about feminism? Did you study it? Have you been involved in it? Do you actually have any touchstone with it? Or, maybe, does it maybe all come from sources that want to portray it negatively, because accurately representing it may undermine your faith in them?

          Some people want you to need them, and the way the do this is by creating a monster that is theoretically attacking you. You need them to defend you from it. You just have to recognize that the monster isn’t real and the problems they’re telling you about are actually to cover up actual issues they are creating.

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      You do know that feminism promotes female masturbation, as well as male masturbation, right? As part of sexual liberation from religious patriarchal oppression. You know, the thing for which women were accused of being witches and burned at the stakes. The thing that it was only appropriate if a doctor did it for them.

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        Direct quotes are “insane incel bull****”? She really said that and the theme appears in all her writings.

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          I don’t care what one person said. Feminism will go away when sexism is gone. It’s not war on men, it’s a fight for equality. Using a random quote from one hurt and angry person to frame feminism as something evil is missing the point and pretty incel. Using feminism as an answer to why masturbation is not socially accepted is insane, really.

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        Her and Solanas both argued men have to be castrated before a feminsit transformation of sexuality can begin.