Hi everyone!
I’m new here and I wonder if you have any advice/testimonials to share regarding Fediverse interoperability.
I’m working on a post about it for my blog series The Future is Federated. I’d like to do a show & tell, demonstrating what interoperability looks like between #Lemmy and #Friendica, #Mastodon + a federated blog to start with.
There’s a superb post by @informapirata@mastodon.uno about Lemmy and Friendica communities: https://www.informapirata.it/2024/01/02/mastodon-tips-how-to-use-friendica-groups-forums-and-lemmy-communities/ and I wonder if you have ever tried further integrations.
I know this sounds crazy, but does #Phanpy work with Lemmy? I’m asking because I use it with not only #Mastodon but also #Pixelfed and Friendica.
Anyway, any testimonials and tips would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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I have only observed Lemmy->Mastodon and Mastodon->Lemmy
If I follow a community, in mastodon it will show as boosts and will show Title + link to the original post with all the comments also as boosts. It has some probability of working. Not always. I couldn’t get hashtags to work.
If someone mentions some lemmy community it will get federated into that community but only into first mentioned community. The first line of a microblog will be set as a title. When users write hashtags and mentions first, it will be unreadable. Not all replies will get federated back and forth.
P.S. I have seen kbin [R.I.P] (Long Live Mbin) posts on lemmy and it worked good
Thank you for the explanation! Follow-up question: if you follow a Lemmy community in Mastodon, do you feel like your feed is filled with messages from that community? Like, does it get noisy fast? (But I’m thinking if they show up as boosts I could simply filter out boosts in my Ivory app)…
You can put Lemmy communities in lists so they don’t spam your home feed. https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-the-lists-feature-on-mastodon/
interesting! thank you for the tip :)
Very similar to a.gup.pe groups but even more disjointed. It also depends if community has thousands of active users or just a dozen.
One common problem for fediverse is that most of them are Western-oriented, hard to find people with similar interest and common topics.
Lemmy so far is replicating Reddit, which is tend to one-size-fit-all community. Gaming community? c/gaming is de-facto. Linux community? c/Linux is de-facto. And so on. Sure there are other server, but the one with most active community wins.
I usually use Facebook Groups with hundreds of thousands of people. It’s nice to see groups of really small niche, like “local fried chicken seller,” “temple research South East Asia,” or “Singapore-only comic collector”, etc.
There are plenty groups with similar topic, but entirely different culture. For example general gaming group:
- Gaming group which predominantly SEA people where mobile gaming is common.
- Gaming group with mainly Western people where mobile gaming is considered lesser form of gaming.
- Gaming group with audience where anime-manga-tokusatsu and other Japanese pop culture are mainstream. (Taiwanese, Indonesian, Korean, etc)
Another example, healthy food groups.
- Healthy food groups with people from area where vegan food is common without labeling (e.g. India, Indonesia, Myanmar, East Timor).
- Healhy food groups with predominantly Westerner that try to replace all food to vegan food.
- Healhy food groups that revolves around local food, which its recipe are only suitable for certain region.
All these communities might be same, but the entire vibe are different. One might more welcoming, other are full or rough jokes, some are okay with multilanguge post (not English only community).
Unless fediverse is able to replicate this, I don’t think it will reach full mainstream, especailly for people in Africa, Middle East, or Asia.
Edit: I also want to see Misskey Channel interoperability, as it has the closest vibe so far with Facebook Groups.
Its utter chaos some things federate some dont some federate in one direction but not the other some just mess with formatting. Someone really needs to come in and fix the whole mess. If i where to fix it id start with that flask implementation of lemmy then add whatever additional routes are required to make it simultaneously a mastodon server. The dream would be a single account that works across all federated services simultaneously federating the same post with the same comments across all front ends. Never going to happen tho sadly.
I’m holding out hope that one single Fediverse identity will be a possibility in the future. Discussion here: https://thenewstack.io/one-login-towards-a-single-fediverse-identity-on-activitypub/
I don’t see how that would fix federation issues.
Testing out comment federation, please don’t mind me 🙈
Pinging @_elena@mastodon.social @elena@friendica.opensocial.space and @elenarossini@pixelfed.social (because, why not) 🙈
two more: @elena@fedia.io @elena@piefed.social
One more - testing Lemmy -> a different Friendica instance… ciao @ferrante@poliverso.org 👋🏼
one more interoperability test, this time from Lemmy.world to a self-hosted new Friendica instance. Hello @jerry@my-place.social - let me know if you get this! 👋
Cool
I tested/wrote about it recently, you’re welcome to copy my metaphorical homework if you want
(I’m getting an Nginx error trying to load Nerdica, hopefully it’ll be back up soon)
Cross Compatibility portion of blog post
The long in the short of it is that Lemmy can communicate with Mastodon & Friends, though since Activity Pub servers handle everything and microblogging platforms have no clue what Lemmy is doing there’s a bit of jank.
You can post to a community by "@"ing it, although it can only be a text based submission. You can follow a community by following it’s name (say @fediverse@lemmy.ml) and you’ll get submissions in the form of boosts/reposts. You can also grab a link to a post or reply and search for that on a microblogging server to reply to or like.
My test went pretty well, although the post I made was slightly wonky (title and “@” appeared in the post text). I also didn’t see all the Lemmy replies make it back to my home server. If nomadic identities make their way to activity pub most of the jank could be resolved.
As for a testimonial about compatibility something that sticks out is cross compatibility between Activity Pub, Nostr, and AT (BlueSky). I’m usually on Nostr, but I follow Activity Pub and AT accounts; and thanks to a copying of a json file you can search out the same username on Activity Pub or Nostr and find my Nostr account.
