That was a fun time, now I’m at the stage of conveying the concept of hobbies that can also be careers and learning for fun

“Why are you in the black window! You’re not working!”

“Sometimes the black window is work and sometimes it’s my own project I’m doing for fun or learning”

“Why are you learning, you don’t go-to school anymore!”

“Because it’s fun to learn new things, even when I’m not made to”

“That sounds like work still”