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    Well, Incest is primarily not about some moral, but about keeping a diversity in the DNA, so two identical DNAs would be hard no.

    But sex with your clone will probably not lead to a baby, so who cares…

    For that reason, it wouldn’t surprise me if there was some biological reason why two identical DNAs could not succesfully combine.

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        I have no idea how big scifi that is, I’ll leave that question to some real biologist.

        Also realized that one edge case might be cloned hermaphrodite, not sure how common is functional hermaphroditism amongst humans.

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          There was a episode of Sliders that dealt with that. Quinn almost hooked up with his female self in other world. So it is possible also there was a movie that dealt with it as well called Predestination with Ethan Hawke that dealt with having sex and making a child with oneself. So sci fi has done it.

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            My point is - we know that cloning is real and possible today.

            Is changing gender also (soon to be) possible, or is that something that will remain exclusive to scifi for forseeable future? I have not a slightest idea.

            No one doubts that anything is possible in scifi movies, that is why there is that word fiction.

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              In current mainstream thought gender =/= sex.

              So your second point should be phrased “Is changing sex also (soon to be) possible”, as sex is genetic and gender is a concept.

              Maybe with some radical gene therapy sex could be changed, but I imagine that to be a rather long and unpleasant process if physical changes happened. It would probably be more feasible to make a clone with the different sex and then transplant consciousness. That just raises further questions like if you died and is that still you. Probably before that is viable we will be uploaded to computer systems to escape the environmental effects of our actions and your avatar will be up to your whims.

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          Ethan Hawke’s Predestination deals with this, but with time travel instead of cloning. That being said, the incest issue is less about the genetics of it, since its generations over time that becomes the problem (see any royal inbreeding family across time and fiction) vs a one-off situation (for genetics). The bigger issue is the psychological trauma of the abuse of siblings or parents/older relatives.

          If we go back to ‘is it or is it not incest’ instead of ‘is incest bad, genetically or psychologically’… I’d say no. Its masturbation. You’re having sex with yourself, and (hopefully) willingly.

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      It is mainly about morals in the age of contraception. Of course the definition of what incest is is not, which is what you probably meant… Ignore me

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      By your standards sisters would be okay or an uncle with his nephew. Its totally up to you, if you want to fuck your mother as long as she is postmenopausal?

      Idk dude. I’m kinda not with you on this.

      Edit: oh wait! If you get a vasectomy/tubes tied, you can fuck the whole family…