Former CEO of Google has been quietly working on a military startup for “suicide” attack drones.::The former Google CEO has been quietly working on a military startup called White Stork with plans to design “kamikaze” attack drones.

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    10 months ago

    Making weapons is not evil. Unfortunately, we live in a world where nations start wars. You need to be able to protect yourself and your allies

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      10 months ago

      I disagree - it’s evil. I’m not saying we don’t need military and weapons but I’d say that if from all possibile ways of approaching this is making suicide drones is kinda evil.

      Imagine having all this status, money and arguably some real skill you choose to make weapons instead of any other alternative. That’s incredibly sad.

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        9 months ago

        Defending yourself is not evil. What’s happening in Ukraine is evil, because the US did not supply enough arms

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          9 months ago

          Small minded point of view. Imagine if those billions were spend productively to unite people rather than defence. I’m not saying no defence is necessary I’m just saying the other side is infinitely more efficient. We attribute diplomacy to one of the greatest human inventions not because it’s more ethical (it is) but because it literally allowed us to prosper to the point where we can sustain 7 billion people with objectively great lives for the most part.

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            9 months ago

            That didn’t get 155mm arty rounds to Ukraine.

            No amount of money can bring back people dying to Russian bombs.

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        10 months ago

        It’s a weapon like any other. Maybe you’re iffy on the name, but suicide drones are just another way to attack specific targets, like missiles but far more precise. What is evil about having a remotely controlled aircraft hit an enemy position as opposed to artillery, bombs or gunfire hitting enemy position?

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          I disagree with this. There is one glaring issue with AI-powered weapons, in comparison to other traditional ones - the skill ceiling required to make massive damages at scale.

          Sure, you can probably level a whole town if you get your hands on some kind of advanced artillery. But it’s still vastly more complex machine, that probably requires extensive training just to operate. You need an army for that, and army is made of people who will hopefully tell you “No, we’re not doing that”, if your request is not reasonable. And if you somehow try to do it yourself, good luck getting more than a few shots out before someone notices and tries to stop you.

          If you have an army of hundreds or thousands of AI powered suicide drones, where you just slap an explosive on them, set a target and the whole fleet will start running, you only need one person with a computer. And once you send the fleet, it’s vastly more difficult to stop it. Hell, you probably don’t event need to physically get to the drones, if you can hack into the system that controls them.

          And that’s the biggest issue with any AI-powered weapon, and a reason why they shouldn’t exist.