• Yantantethera@feddit.uk
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        When does one start counting the deaths of a genocide? Do we wait until the last member of a group of people has been killed?

        Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages

        genocide noun

        the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

        Looks like exactly what is happening.

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          Wow so if I don’t accuse Israel of genocide, my comments get removed.

          I’m warning you all, you’re becoming the fascism you accuse those republican bastards of being.

          Censorship for not agreeing.

          Do yourselves a favor kids: if you hope to have a future, open a textbook and stop getting your reality from YouTube. Many of you literally have no idea what’s true anymore. Open some textbooks while they still are allowed to exist.

          Because now the extreme liberal are doing exactly the same as the extreme conservative.

          Mods: SHAME ON YOU.

          I’m replacing my comments because the forum doesn’t deserve them. I fully expect to be banned. That’s ok. I just hope some people see this and think for a moment.

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        “not a people”, oh that’s all right then, nothing to see here, please ignore the murder of tens of thousands of human beings, because, and I quote “they are not a people”.

        …give your head a wobble.

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          Wow so if I don’t accuse Israel of genocide, my comments get removed.

          I’m warning you all, you’re becoming the fascism you accuse those republican bastards of being.

          Censorship for not agreeing.

          Do yourselves a favor kids: if you hope to have a future, open a textbook and stop getting your reality from YouTube. Many of you literally have no idea what’s true anymore. Open some textbooks while they still are allowed to exist.

          Because now the extreme liberal are doing exactly the same as the extreme conservative.

          Mods: SHAME ON YOU.

          I’m replacing my comments because the forum doesn’t deserve them. I fully expect to be banned. That’s ok. I just hope some people see this and think for a moment.

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        It’s a genocide

        Genocide

        On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.

        The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.

        So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.

        More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.

        An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that “Israel’s genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole” as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

        Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.

        Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC

        Deliberate Attacks on Civilians

        Israel deliberately targets civilian areas. From in general with the Dahiya Doctrine to multiple systems deployed in Gaza to do so:

        Israel also targets Israeli Soldiers and Civilians to prevent them being leveraged as hostages, known as the Hannibal Directive. Which was also used on Oct 7th.

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        You are wrong.

        @Yantantethera@feddit.uk is definitively correct, as the UN and other anthropological experts agree.

        Palestinians have been and still are suffering a genocide at the hands of the Israeli military policy of the IDF and Netanyahu.

        The term genocide was assigned to the israeli-Palestinian “conflict” years ago by the UN as a progression of the Israeli apartheid system, and has been recently reaffirmed for those who were unsure (https://press.un.org/en/2024/gapal1473.doc.htm) since it’s more obvious since last year than ever that the Palestinian people and their culture are being deliberately erased from their homeland on ethnic, cultural and national bases.

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          Neutral point here but what is the policy if a hypothetical tribe being genocided away was itself genocidal? How do you balance those interests in a humane, stablizing way?