I legitimately did not believe it was possible for this to happen. There’s always a hateful minority but I believe people as a whole are good. How did this happen?
I legitimately did not believe it was possible for this to happen. There’s always a hateful minority but I believe people as a whole are good. How did this happen?
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Imagine being insane enough to type this out when Trump’s campaign is “they’re eating the pets.”
Are you listening to yourself? Trump is crazy/senile. Many of the people that support him know this, but will continue to support him because he appoints the ® judges they want. He could be the craziest person on the planet, but his supporters just won’t care as long he can be relied upon to deliver the courts.
A month ago, I though Harris had a good chance at winning. But as we got closer to election day, ads, headlines, and commentators focused more and more on how bad Trump is, rather than what she stands for or promises. That’s why she lost. No one was going to change the minds of any Trump voters. She needed to get undecided/swing/unmotivated voters to vote FOR her, rather than vote against Trump. “We’re not going back”? Fine, I don’t want that either, but instead of repeating that over and over, how about you remind people what it means for a Harris administration to move us forward? You can’t do that because you’re keeping us in bed with Israel and people are concerned about the implications from that? Yeah, she was going to lose to the “pet-eating” douche.
Say whatever you want about Trump and his supporters, and sure, there’s plenty to disagree with. But, they had someone they were voting FOR, and that means more than being scared of the alternative.
This is a complete deflection from the primary point: Kamala ran a campaign that would have done well in 2012. Not 2024. She had no strategy, and in fact did everything she could to not differentiate or excite despite ample historical examples from Obama to Trump on how to do so.
Biden’s was worse
It’s still Kamala’s fault she lost, but she wasn’t as bad as it could have been.
Relentless conservative propaganda made it a close race and Harris blew it by cozying up to Republicans and using kids gloves with Trump.
I think Harris played it better than anyone had so far with handling Trump. I think her fatal mistep was believing there were hordes of rightwing never trumpers who could be swayed. She had so much momentum when she first stepped in and people thought she’d be further left than Biden, she pivoted further right than him and probably got less votes. Being a POC woman certainly didn’t help either.
This is exactly how I saw the campaign go, and how my enthusiasm died when she got buddy buddy with Cheney. By the time I voted it was solidly back to ‘against Republicans’ instead of having any hope that the Dems had learned anything.
I don’t have the energy to try and sway people to do the right thing, but voting is easy enough that I’ll probably keep doing that. I should probably just stop paying attention to Dem campaigns though because it sure makes taking the time to vote for them harder each decade. Republicans trashing the country should be enough of a reminder.
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What proof do you have that cozying up to Republicans hurt her.
How did she handle Trump with kid gloves?
No proof, just the obvious fact that cozying up to your enemies is generally a negative. How is propping up Liz Cheney going to encourage voters who oppose Republicans?
She didn’t call him ‘convicted felon Donald Trump’. She didn’t ask him how he was looking forward to his sentencing. She didn’t ask him if he wasn’t going to let him grab her by the pussy just because he was famous. She didn’t point out that he stared at the sun during an eclipse. She didn’t point out that he nominated three SCOTUS judges that overturned Roe v Wade despite claiming he supported it. She didn’t blatantly call out his lies directly, she didn’t point out that he couldn’t focus on the topic and sounds like the sundowning jackass that he is.
She took the high road, as Dems tend to do, and not be direct and clear in their criticism of Republicans. They just softball disagreement instead of stating “That is a lie and you know it.”
I don’t think you’re wrong, but what could she have done better?
I never expected that Trump had a chance, but this is the first time he’s won the popular vote too. Something really turned people off of Harris, and I’m curious what it was.
She could have held to her no-fracking stance, broke with Biden over Gaza, not promised to build a border wall, or not promised to put a Republican in the cabinet. Any one of these might have made the difference
She was 2 minorities at the same time.
She aligned herself with (1) the most unpopular republican vice president and warmonger of our generation, (2) did not distance herself from an unpopular president, (3) did not on any level run a non-traditional media campaign all while watching the Trump campaign triple down on it.
The actual true answer is that it’s only her fault given the opportunity, but she in fact should never have been given the opportunity—Biden should have prepared to be a one term president and give years of lead time for a competent candidate to challenge the very obvious and inevitable campaign Trump ran.
Trump vote totals is sideways. Hers went down 12MM from 2020.
I live in a red state and vote blue. Trump is bad for the country. But the silver lining is that the Dems are now forced to have self reflection that they refused to have four years ago, and hopefully field a legitimately viable candidate in 2028.