These are starting to really stack up with the nutty mods in some of these places and I’d like to keep score and perhaps display them somewhere. I’m wondering if there’s a list?

If not, short of crawling every community findable by an account and checking banned status by e.g. attempting to post, is there a way to collate such a list programmatically with e.g. an API or cURL or selenium automation, given the structure of the fediverse?

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    From reading their posts, op is either sarcastic to a degree that does not play well on the Internet, or continually dip their toes into communities with highly charged opinions and then acts surprised when their peers take offense.

    The transmedicalism accusation is borderline spurious and I think the accusations is extreme given what I read (they’re more taking note of the difference between fashion expression and gender. They’re not saying who is it isn’t trans to gatekeep, they’re presenting the idea that some people might be less confused and make different life choices if more people tolerated traditionally-gendered subjects (like clothing and makeup) from anyone without judgement

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        Are you exaggerating when you say meth? Were they helping people who couldn’t afford medication find prescription medicine at reasonable prices? Or was it literally street meth?

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          No. I was helping people practice harm reduction if they do get amphetamine - be it Adderall or LisDex formulation like Vyvanse/Elvanse without the oversight of a medical professional or pharmacist and explaining that it is a possibility, and that instead of the war on drugs type approach of claiming it’s simply not real, we should take care of our own with solidarity, e.g. explaining how to get proper purity tests to ensure you are not consuming meth, how to find reliable and semi-trustworthy sources, avoid scams etc.

          Just comveying things I learned the hard way - from experience - while waiting on the NHS for a prescription that I have now and having to keep my life together to keep my job etc in the meanwhile.

          I did the same for my own IRL gf who suffered from meds shortages, and I did the same for the trans community back in the day and I stand by it.

          Edit: I genuinely cannot understand how this can be downvoted by anyone of sound mind whatsoever. Every single person I know with ADHD self-medicates or has self-medicated with darknet amph or supplemented during shortages due to healthcare system fuckups, but they are shit at it, getting god knows what miscallenous powders and suffering.

          How could someone ever possibly disagree with promoting harm reduction practices, yet agree with a sensationalist comment that equates ADHD medication to meth? How can you actually think at all, and arrive at such a conclusion?

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            The opinions on the morality of harm reduction are irrelevant. The ADHD community on Lemmy is not the appropriate place to spread that knowledge for a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with the morality of harm reduction.

            I’m not surprised you got banned. You were putting the administration and moderation team in a very difficult position. You should have simply stated ‘I have knowledge about X. Contact me on direct messages or Session/Signal/Matrix for details’

            For the record I completely agree with your position on harm reduction

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              If that’s not the appropriate place to spread such information, then what is? If anything to me that’s what such places should be about.

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                It’s not your space to make that decision for. You are not the one who has potential problems if it draws negative attention. You aren’t the one responsible if server admins choose to block that community due to the law-breaking information you’re making available.

                The appropriate place to share information that clearly instructed people on how to break the law is in private, or in a space you have created and control yourself.

                It’s uncool to demand others allow you to use spaces they are in charge of like this. Have a little respect for the people who actually created these spaces.

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                  Idk, I think it’s just kinda cringe honestly to be this overly-cautious on a relatively unknown forum no one cares about but fair enough, it’s on the admins, it’s their decision and their space, I won’t respect them for that decision, though.

                  Fwiw to clarify, I did not link to DNMs and vendors and give instructions on the specifics of where and how to acquire illicit drugs, which is where for instance the issue becomes rule-breaking on places like /r/Drugs or /r/TransDIY, presumably to align with where it becomes legally troublesome.

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                    I don’t agree with the determination either, and I definitely wouldn’t run my own community that way

                    But I’m also a community admin elsewhere and have been doing that kind of stuff for like 25 years or something.

                    So I don’t really begrudge any admin for deciding what things are off-limits for their community. It’s up to me whether I participate there or not

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            How can you actually think at all, and arrive at such a conclusion?

            Bold claim, asserting that whoever downvoted you thought before doing it. Humans short-circuit all the time, nothing you can do about that, and getting bitter or exasperated won’t help, either. Deal with it. If you want you can start your comments with something universally agreeable, that always helps, and only then get into details. “Universally agreeable” as in “agreeable to both truth and all false notions anyone on earth has at the moment”. If you want to get idiots to listen you have to start out on a common ground that they share.

            More specifically, in this case, you could’ve started your comment with a short rant about the state of availability of ADHD medication.

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              I’m not bitter, ultimately none of this affects me in the selfish sense, just lightly perplexed. I appreciate your explanation. Figures most people just have kneejerk reactions.

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      They’re not saying who is it isn’t trans to gatekeep, they’re presenting the idea that some people might be less confused and make different life choices if more people tolerated traditionally-gendered subjects (like clothing and makeup) from anyone without judgement

      When an identity seems to be defined by appearance/presentation to those who don’t understand it personally, assuming the identity would occur less frequently if social norms were less restrictive does make sense. Like personally I don’t think drag would be a thing if it wasn’t a bit of a response to gender norms. I mean even if society didn’t care about which gender wears which clothes some guys would get dolled up and even do essentially the same performative thing because some people just love to perform, but it wouldn’t be the same thing that drag is now and it wouldn’t be controversial to bigots. I mean women wearing pants was a huge fucking deal for no real reason and nobody really cares anymore.

      But using clothing choices as a reason someone might be trans misses the point that a lot of trans people wore jeans and t shirts before and after transitioning because there is far more to it than the superficial appearance of clothing choice.

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        That was not the point being made at all. Precisely the opposite, that being trans *** is not *** about clothing choices, but a physical characteristic of suffering from sex dysphoria over specific physical traits that goes away when those traits are corrected. This is my experience as a trans person.

        On the other hand being gender fluid and identifying with other GNC subcultures is not about such physical issues.

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        I think reading it as “clothing choices as a reason someone might trans” is reductive of the point being made

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      This is jsut kind of what happens if you dip into random posts on thr global feed. There is a mix of generalist Lemmy sites that expect people to behave like they’re on Reddit, and everything’s just a free for all, and insular sites that are focused on a narrower community, operating more like independent forums.

      Stepping into one of these spaces, and treating it like a big, open one is going to get you tossed on your ass like you’re DJ Jazzy Jeff in an Uncle Phil convention.

      You need to be aware of what community you are engaging with around here, because it might not want your participation. That is not power tripping, that is just being unwelcoming.

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        Exactly this. And some of these communities have very good reasons for being insular in order to protect specific goals they have established.

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        I don’t use the global feed, only subscribed and sorting by scaled - always.

        All of the communities I’ve been banned from I’m a long-time subscriber and lurker in with a genuine interest in the subject matter, or I wouldn’t look at them in the first place.

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      One is a people suffering from a horrific disorder in desperate need of effective medical care (transition) and the other is a fashion subculture.

      I have no horse in this race, but I can see the transmedicalism claim

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        Yeah that’s is definitely not well presented, but I’m willing to assume good intent here I think? Like, I can get behind the difference between people who are suffering due to dysphoria being fundamentally different than people who are suffering from the expectations placed by society on their gender. And I feel like that was at the heart of their statement, despite the presentation being awful

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          Idk, I felt like I presented that as politely and diplomatically as possible, but perhaps my entire scale is just utterly off.