Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.
If you’re saying “pigeon family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.
So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people “call the white ones doves?” Let’s get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you’d call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don’t.
You must be really passionate about pigeons to write seven paragraphs of condescension and a veiled insult because of one comment. Or maybe XKCD was right (again) and it’s just an ornithologist thing.
Here’s the thing. You said a “dove is a pigeon.”
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies pigeons, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls pigeons doves. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.
If you’re saying “pigeon family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Columbidae, which includes things from pigeons to doves to pigeons.
So your reasoning for calling a pigeons a dove is because random people “call the white ones doves?” Let’s get gulls and pelicans in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A dove is a dove and a member of the pigeon family. But that’s not what you said. You said a dove is a pigeon, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the pigeon family pigeons, which means you’d call doves, pigeons, and other birds pigeons, too. Which you said you don’t.
It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?
You must be really passionate about pigeons to write seven paragraphs of condescension and a veiled insult because of one comment. Or maybe XKCD was right (again) and it’s just an ornithologist thing.
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