great that a representative is trying to do something that may have a snowball’s chance

Have you read my comment?
It is not doing something except stiffing you with the bill.
And it’s this deceptive language and tactics that earned him the name.
Or Bernie the Sheepdog, as he’s usually called because of his gatekeeping and keeping the sheep from running away from the corporate dems, the ones he invariably supports.
I suggest you look into him and separate his words from his actions.
People are too trusting.
That’s all I can say about it, I have stuff to do unfortunately.

You’re hearing it wrong.
Did the government do anything against these companies or their data centers before?
And do you think when that same government has 50% of it that is ‘giving it to the public’ as this clown claims?
You will only lose more.
Why do you think those AI companies all suggested the exact same Sovereign Wealth Fund plans?
Are they known to be altruistic?
Or is it that they are losing billions and are the extreme opposite of profitable?
There will be no recompense, only gigantic debt, and that is the only thing that will be ‘given to the public’.
Sure Bernie the snake sell it well, but what do you think to acquire 50 percent of equity of these companies means?
It means the government is buying that stock at the current extremely high and overvalued price.
Why would these companies need government money if all the investors would be dying to invest in this great profitable technology?
No, the current investors will make their huge profits from selling them to ‘the public’ and they will be left with nothing.
Is 2008 too long ago? They were hyping up the market until the very last day.
This is nothing more than an early bail out.
And it’s definitely going to work, as all the gullible Bernie clowns fall for it.
Let me know when you get those profits OK?

LOL
you people are a lost cause.

That plan was proposed by these evil companies themselves, that should say a lot.
They are losing billions.
“mandated equity transfer” will be paying top prices for half of this overvalued bubble and the ‘financial interest’ will only mean the public is going to lose all that money when, not if that bubble burst.

LOL
You really think the government is going to decide anything against their owners?

Gee, what a coincidence
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/a-plan-for-establishing-a-united-states-sovereign-wealth-fund/
https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/06/openais-vision-for-the-ai-economy-public-wealth-funds-robot-taxes-and-a-four-day-work-week/
That must be a good idea if they are for it, right Bernie?

I have a bridge to sell you

Certainly, but then they would need to ask the public to pay for them while it wasn’t their problem.
That’s different from suckering a part of the gulibles to buy into this disaster waiting to happen.
Then they can blame them, markets have risks, unforeseen circumstances,etc…

my medication has worn on, I have been enduring, serious, oral surgery,

You think wishing you to feel better after reading this is an ad hominem attack?

All good, take care, have some rest and feel better.

OK.

But I’m also trying to engage you in good faith. If you just don’t wanna hear it, I’m not gonna waste either of our time.

Same goes for me, as my experience with people who defend him usually devolve into insults when they run out of arguments.

I am definitely old enough and had an interest in geopolitics since the 80’s.
I’m European BTW.
Since the US imperialist cancer has consequences everywhere I obviously need to know a lot about their local politics and system.
With the advantage of not being in one of their 2 cults, being able to have unbiased info and not suffering from the extreme propaganda and awful media the US has.
As clearly most of the population can’t think outside their box.
I am very curious why you, as you claim to be knowledgeable and interested in these matters still can’t see through Sanders.
So let’s have it.

LOL How old are you that you don’t see the obvious game Bernie the Sheepdog is playing?

I will be very happy to explain to you how they are not

Sure, let’s hear it, always up for a laugh

Making a big fuss asking for things that will never happen and proposing bills only when he’s absolutely sure they will not get enough votes is his whole act.

So Bernie the Snake wants the public to be left holding the bag when that obvious bubble bursts.

So Bernie the Snake wants the public to be left holding the bag when that obvious bubble bursts.
He really is a sneaky and scummy POS

The US and their horrible system have worked against science on many occasions.

Couldn’t care less about logos.

They will already do that, just not in so many words.

I do think it’s meaningful.
Even if I don’t need data or a scientific explanation of why the bulk (mainstream) music is getting worse.
I can hear that already.

loops are bad?

So you don’t go in to the measured chords, note progressions, and melodic transitions but cherrypick loops.
I didn’t say that.
It’s about OVER USE of the same loops and presets.

I guess I should inform all those classical music critics they’re actually dumb for liking Terry Riley and Steve Reich.

So this is irrelevant but apparently you feel the need to make snarky remarks too.
Bye

Dubstep is just as much a recycled genre/subgenre as anything else?
If you’re after something new to your ears it really shouldn’t fit neatly into any genre, right?

I have to disagree.
There is obviously a use of dub basslines but how it was used and everything else about it gave me that buzz I only get from a new genre.
That moment when you’re witnessing the next step in the evolution of electronic music.
Same as I had when hearing jungle for the first time, even if that also had faster recycled loops.
It was undeniably new and a genre in itself.
TBC it’s not the being ‘new’ that is important, but the fact that I have a lot of stuff to listen to from artists exploring the new genre.
I really like floating points BTW, the rest I haven’t heard of.

who was doing lush layered multi instrument compositions like this over electronic music pre-2000 not named Bjork?

I think there’s a few.

You name some individual artists here, of course there are plenty with their own unique sound, for me Autechre is the best example.
So yes there’s plenty of stuff to listen to, old stuff, cumbia, folk or whatever, but as I said, it’s been a long time since I’ve heard anything that can be justifiably labeled as a new genre in electronic music leading to a wave of artists exploring that specific discovered road.