You tried to pass off studies of legal immigrats as illegal immigrants, got caught and now demand that I prove that they are different because you know you can’t find any studies to support that claim.
Go learn what a null hypothesis is and come back to me.
Are you claiming legals were misidentified as illegals?
No. I’m saying they’re only giving the immigrants the “counting prisoners” treatment. They’re not treating immigrants and citizens equally in their “analysis”.
You tried to pass of studies on immigrant crime rates as illegal immigrant crime studies and got caught.
Are you going to catch me breathing next? Like I already said, this point is irrelevant, as you have yet to prove a difference in rates between immigrants and undocumented immigrants.
Adding prisoners to the rate that were not added initially. They’re correcting the rate.
No, they’re adding prisoners to the rate only for one group. They’re fucking up the numbers.
Texas’ crime data only counts illegal aliens who have already been caught and fingerprinted by the Department of Homeland Security.
So what?
You couldn’t provide sources to back up your claim now you make new claims and instead of backing them up you ask that I do.
No, you made an implicit claim that there is a difference in crime rates between immigrants and undocumented immigrants. Support it.
illegals commit murders at a 30% higher rate then the rest of the population. 4 of your 5 studies showed legal immigrants had lower crime rates than the rest of the population.
https://cis.org/Report/Misuse-Texas-Data-Understates-Illegal-Immigrant-Criminality
Crazy, it’s almost like adding prisoners to the count increases the rates. Go with something peer reviewed next time.
Please show me where I said we should be racially profiling people at airports, invading foreign countries, forcibly converting people to christianity, and killing civilians.
The PNAS study you cited has the same flaw, it’s using Texas data for illegal immigrant status.
How is that a flaw? Texas is very much involved in this issue.
… study about immigration and crime not illegal immigration
Prove to me that there any significant difference in crime rates between documented immigrants and undocumented immigrants (beyond the occasional misdemeanor of illegal entry that half the time isn’t even always a part of this).
Not a troll. It is just plainly obvious that if you didn’t care, you wouldn’t be responding to this.
This comment chain wasn’t intended to discuss the article. It is to discuss the pervasive shittyness of the sources around here. My other comment in this thread was for the article itself.
Nor should it be. Sweden doesn’t tax wealth.
Wealth is always revelant. If the rich hoarding all the wealth, then the rest of us starve/become homeless/lose our possessions/etc.
If Bezos went BK, Do you think we should give a refund when his stock goes down in value?
Stocks should exist in the first place. They only serve to distribute wealth to the rich, and to those who spend their lives making speculative investments (ie producing nothing of value, and siphoning wealth from the economy).
MEDIA ALERT: Time to roll out the fake studies on low immigrant crime!
The one-man factory producing these studies is Alex Nowrasteh of the libertarian Cato Institute. (Take our country, just don’t raise taxes.) He fudges the data, slaps a false title on his report, and journalists copy his work like they’re Claudine Gay writing a thesis.
It is absolutely hilarious that the Cato institute is getting called out for ‘shitting out bad studies’ by fellow conservatives.
Setting aside that, this article portrays all of the studies are coming from one person. But that’s not the case.
Literally just pulling off the top results from google scholar:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2014704117
https://www.ojp.gov/criminal_justice2000/vol_1/02j.pdf
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/(SICI)1520-6688(199822)17:3<457::AID-PAM4>3.0.CO;2-F
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0022427818799125
These are authored by different people, and they all come to more or less the same conclusion, that immigrants have lower crime rates than the existing population.
I take issue with your article’s interpretation of the studies by Nowrasteh, but in the end I don’t care enough to go over that when there are plenty of other studies confirming the same result.
You can’t represent multiple companies simultaneously, you should look up feduciary responsibilities.
And the law doesn’t always reflect reality.
Just admit you’re lazy and/or couldn’t find a source supporting your insane claims. The 1st step to improving as a person is to take responsibilities for your actions.
With you? Nah. It’s not worth the effort. Next time try to be honest about what I an saying and maybe I’ll put in the effort.
If it didn’t bother you, why are you still typing? Don’t lie, we all know the truth.
Correct. It is a quote from the site owner, Ann Coulter.
How much longer are these shitty sources gonna be allowed around here?
“Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.”
I’m glad you finally concede a CEO is not always representing their company.
That is not what I said. If you want to have honest discussion, this is not the way to do it.
Bad people do bad things is a perfect summary of your dodge of the question.
That is not my argument.
Your article had accusations but no evidence, those accusations were Trump has done some racists things. That’s a far leap from Trump is a white nationalists.
I’m putting in the same level of effort as you. Do you want better sources? Then quit being dishonest about what I am saying, and quit the insults. Until then I’m not going to bother putting in effort to cite the evidence just for you to play childish games.
Still waiting for what rights your fighting for.
I already explained this, just for you to strawman it.
Really seem to be putting a lot of effort into defending yourself over this. Must be really bothering you.
Since you believe a CEO is always representing their company, then a person couldn’t be a CEO of multiple companies but they are, companies would be legally liable for all actions of their CEO but they are not.
A person can represent multiple companies. And the law is the law, it is often not a reflection reality.
You really need to work on understanding logical fallacies, you lose all credibility when you use them incorrectly.
You portrayed my argument as “Bad people do bad”, an intentionally weak and inaccurate version of my argument. That’s by definition a strawman.
“A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion”
The only real difference here is that you portrayed my argument to be so weak that it was implied to be inherently wrong. But at the end of the day you were using a strawman.
If anyone here has lost credibility it is you for using fallacies, and then lying about it.
An opnion piece that doesn’t mention white nantionalists in the whole article is not evidence that Trump is a white nantionalists. Do you even read the articles you cite.
Evidently the concept of synonyms is beyond your understanding. That, and the spelling of “nationalist”.
You’re also fundamentally missing the point. The article is talking about the -ism, not the specifics which would be the -ists.
Most people disagree with conservative politics, and that goes doubly so for the fediverse. The voting system is more or less a agree/disagree system. And you are posting this to bolster Trump’s image.
Couple those together and it’s pretty straightforward why this got downvoted.
Given that the democratic party is incapable of doing the literal minimum, and how terrible our voting system is, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Like I said in the other thread, I’d rather vote for Biden’s dead corpse and hear fox news bitch about him being sleepy for 4 years than have a dictator.