I’m more worried about the slow increase in toxic car posts. If I wanted that Id use Facebook more

Yeah. Last thing I want is to deal with all the anti-environment, anti-EV pro-extremist right wing toxic-macho shit bots.

Quality, not quantity. With too many people, moderation begins to fail

It’s not a common scenario probably.

But I felt at least one admin was so focused on protecting at least 1 minority, that they were willing to overlook bad behavior by some of them. Or maybe they knew that if they told them to act better that the community would see them as a threat

In fact, the person who exclaimed that I “wanted to kill the entire minority” simply because I didn’t 100% agree with one thing also I realized colored my opinion early of the rest of Lemmy on another thread by calling it a cesspool

It’s actually the opposite. People are free to discuss on other servers, and I realize that lots of the thing that person was saying, was actually bad for discussions except in a way that benefits them directly (even disregarding other people in their minority).

The crazy part is I have plenty of friends who are part of that minority lol

They were a mod too, so over time, some of these communities will only develop stronger and stronger opinions which are self reinforcing and rise to the top in these safe spaces and basically become another femaledatingstrategy like environment

That doesn’t mean she supports it. There’s evidence that even with Biden there were things potentially happening in the background to try to stop it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-03/israel-accepts-joe-bidens-gaza-ceasefire-proposal/103926614

Trump literally asked Russia publicly to find dirt on Hillary to win and praises dictators constantly.Kamala isn’t praising dictators.

If Trump went to court for every crime he committed, he would have no time to campaign. In fact, with lawsuits they likely have to compress them and limit the contents to the worst offenders to facilitate their processing time.

You haven’t heard even a small number of crimes that Mafia don has committed. But a guy who goes and laughs on social media when one of his followers attacked pelosis husband obviously supports assault.

So just to clarify, Trump = actual criminal who uses violence to gain power Kamala = normal person

You’re also assuming that Trump will end the war. He won’t. He’ll do what he normally does and just shout at both parties. If he gets forced out of office, he’ll sabotage the next president

Walz in particular is ex military and I seriously doubt he is pro war either. There might be stuff happening in the background again we don’t know about (Trump will brag in public about every single thing he does, but sometimes negotiations require the opposite). It’s similar to criminal investigations which take a long time

I’ve heard evidence that it was a fairly toxic community there anyway.

We should be careful to avoid creating communities that are echo chambers. Ie, it should be a community discussing veganism, not a vegan safe space where people abuse you if you disagree

Otherwise, in 5 years time you end to with scenarios similar to reddit or on beehaw

I left beehaw because I half agreed with the community, someone in a “safe space” abused me, and a beehaw admin overlooked that abuse and instead insisted I was starting a flight (simply because I didn’t 100% agree with the community it seemed)

We also risk scenarios where vaping or drug communities could grow and become toxic in the same way. We also should be as scientific as possible and avoid becoming Facebook.

I’m not sure about the cat thing, but to me, it seems like it could at least be used as animal abuse

I keep seeing the same bozos say they’re the same

One is literally a criminal rapist who has made tens of thousands of public lies, doesn’t pay contractors, and said obvious non sensensical stuff during covid leading to mass deaths and whose own ex staff warns he is an asshole.

The other is a normal person you could probably eat lunch with. She’s absolutely normal.

CFMEU on-site have always been bullies.

I know people who put stickers on their hard hats to avoid getting bullied

They’re not really about the workers honestly.

I got told off onsite by CFMEU for the stupidest things, that were clearly just them swinging their dicks around so I knew they were in charge

I think initially it was simply because Ellen pao might have wanted freedom of speech. The funny thing is that the people she defended turned against her

But this turned into an issue eventually Steve seemed to get rid of some communities, and allowed places like thedonald to flourish. I believe he just wants money.

So you could be right

I never saw the thread, but based on what I’m hearing, it’s animal abuse.

If you look at Reddit and Facebook they’ve both been mostly consumed by anti science communities which put people in real danger

We see communities like this create an echo chamber which grows and make it impossible to argue sanely.

The fact is, I have seen some increasingly toxicity in some vegan (and some other) communities on Lemmy too. And it is one reason why I left beehaw. Because they allow toxic communities to flourish (as long as they were driven by a minority).

I’d even go as far as the behavior of some of these communities look like femaledatingadvice/thedonald on Reddit slowly. It’s ok to have disagreements, but nobody and no animals should be put at risk.

The biggest issue with Reddit and Facebook was that they let stuff like this stick around it and eventually consume it.

It’s a good policy imho, and I’m happy to see it

Science should prevail

You just join another instance like normal.

But having left beehaw recently, I would say I can’t really see any good reasons to leave lemmy world.

I only left beehaw because one admin I felt was overlooking crap people in one specific minority and it was slowly turning into a echo chamber. Ironically, it turns out the crap person in particular coloured my perception of other lemmy servers ages ago to make it seem like other lemmy servers were a cesspool (they are not)

It was also surprisingly unstable compared to lemmy world servers

I haven’t seen any actions by lemmy world admins however which would encourage leaving.

In fact, you can access mostly the same posts from different servers here anyway because servers are mostly federated

Something tells me that you’re not at fault…

We have similar extremist dickheads here similar to trump (but Trump helps give them power too).

And yeah… It’s absolutely clear trump won’t change his behavior. That became clear after he had a second judgement filed against him for defamation by E Jean Carroll, and he can likely be sued a 3rd time successfully. He really is dumb as dog ****. Could have spent the rest of his life playing golf lying about his profitability. Instead he chose to offend half of the country, and draw attention to himself and his crimes by bragging

There seems to be a few people suddenly calling Biden racist too, and trying to say both parties are the same. If it quacks like a lobbyist, it is possibly a lobbyist…

But yeah. This is overall probably due to the election more than anything.

People like me (I’m Aussie) will even up vote some things simply because I can’t imagine how bad it would be for Trump to win again… For the entire world.

Yeah. I’m not paying that money for something with absolutely rubbish wifi

Not sure if they ever fixed it, but in the past, you couldn’t even add them to the wifi network unless you turned off any secondary APs.

I stopped using the app because it is a pain to get going. But there are much cheaper ones on Amazon

It’s actually a really good way to cook huge chunks of meat in particular

Because whilst technical people know it has limited applications (like blockchain), business people tend to fall for buzzwords easily because they don’t realise a lot of the things it does were solved in other ways

So… Two things…

I have a funny story regarding modding on Lemmy…

Ran into two bad mods the other day (related to the same convo). But, gist of the story is, I got into a discussion with someone who heavily exaggerated and claimed I wanted to kill an entire minority, as I only 80% agreed with them (they were basically demanding government benefits which would cause a huge issue if applied to other communities which was required to be fair , and they couldn’t even set the parameters of the rules for it). A Beehaw admin freely ignored the outrageous comment that the other mod made, and branded me instantly as “starting a fight”.

As I was deleting my Beehaw account, I noticed that same non-beehaw mod had actually been in a thread I had also posted in a month ago which was discussing more conservative people moving to Lemmy (I’m VERY left). They basically said in the discussion they were constantly needing to remove “conservative” and people who were trying to start fights . This was ironic because doing the huge exaggeration thing and calling someone a derogatory name is basically out of the conservative playbook (and they were certainly the only ones fighting), and anywhere else it would be seen as rediculous behavior.

People in that thread though also made it sound like the rest of Lemmy was a cesspool. This colored my opinion of Lemmy and I realised my opinion came from that same thread, so, I didn’t want to leave beehaw, and only took the leap recently.

I was actually hugely surprised by Lemmy World. Everyone is a lot more respectful here than I expected and I think its even a better safe space than beehaw, where . There are a lot more connected instances, so the bad actors get drowned out easier, and it promotes a healthy discussion, where science is encouraged. We might not all agree, but it’s a lot easier to avoid echo chambers. The science memes community is also AWESOME on Lemmy and beats anywhere else imho.

Reddit on the other hand, doesn’t seem to have good moderation (most mods are unpaid and the power hungry ones will try to manage hundreds of communities). It has degraded into people fishing for karma , and has a higher percentage of abusive people who also likely abuse others on facebook (many aussie subs have degraded into far right wing where science is discouraged and people purposely try to push an echo chamber). THere are a lot of good mods here though, and if you don’t like a community, you can block it and find another one… The cool part is that I suspect over time, this will eventually keep mods honest.

The biggest problem is that Reddit SHOULD have acted on FatPeopleHate, the Donald and Female Dating strategy. They didn’t act on jailbait either apparently. Those people established themselves permanently into the community, grew to some of the largest communities and the moment mods left, many of those same communities likely did a power grab too. Reddit staff don’t really care either, and since the people running the servers don’t seemingly care (similar to facebook), it simply encourages them