nice to reach a sensible and happy conclusion with someone in this thread.

Cheers mate!

So I have shown that there is evidence that vegan cat food is palatable and nutritious.

We should therefore be able to agree that it is not animal abuse.

Benevo Cat is a professional cat food, created by Benevo in 2005, formulated and checked by independent animal nutritionists to meet the AAFCO(USA) and FEDIAF(Europe) guidelines for animal nutrition.

Is that good enough?

If only we could harness the power of you moving the goal posts

well then I don’t know what to tell you.

It seems that you keep moving the goal posts.

there is research that be shows the diet does.not seems to be harmful.

there is evidence that the cats enjoy the food.

there are companies selling the food in the UK for 17 years.

I can tell you that people in the UK love their animals. Vegans generally would not want to hurt their own cat.

you have to make your mind up beyond that.

I hope at least you can see that it is not a completely radical thing to do these days.

that’s how you measure quality of life. the other option would be doing it in a lab with test subject. which I’m sure you would not appreciate.

And, adequate care. there seems to be a slight benefit rather than a danger to the cats.

which elements are you particularly concerned about?

It says ‘complete nutrition’. Do you trust this less than other brands which are often composite foods?

more research needs to be done. for sure. but as you can see, the research so far supports the idea that a plant based diet is healthy for a cat.

Which part of the report do you disagree with? Which part of the report contradicts what I am saying?

I don’t have a cat. But I do support reducing animal.abusr where possible.

Surely you can agree with that?

sounds reasonable. Hardly radical.

An approach that is trying to minimise animal abuse over all.

here is the type of food that might be used:

Benevo Katzenfutter vegan trocken (10 https://amzn.eu/d/75Ia3Bw

It’s not slices of cucumber.

how else will you study quality of life from a cat?

I asked you to show peer reviewed studies that prove cats will not find vegan food palatable.

Is this not possible for you?

Benevo Katzenfutter vegan trocken (10 https://amzn.eu/d/75Ia3Bw

Is this too radical?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

how about this meta study?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

there are few studies at the moment. however, it does appear to be bad for cats.

You asked for peer reviewed studies into the palatability and nutrition of vegan cat food.

I provided.

show me some unfavourable ones then

Yeah. Studies are often funded by people who want to know an answer.

Are you prepared to crowd fund a study into vegan cats?

there are a few different things they measure. But sure, it’s written down into the log book. y an owner.

How do you think they measure if regular cat food is palatable?

if the food is palatable then it can easily be made nutritious.

these cats are not just being given sprigs of broccoli. cat biscuits with meat are engineered to meet the needs of a cat with very little ‘good’ meat. Vegan cat biscuits are palatable and nutritious.

cat biscuits in general are not natural to the cat world. Cats are spayed and kept inside against their will but a lot of owners.

Simply offering a cat a vegan cat biscuit meal is completely fine.

I did not down vote you buddy. probably one of the animal abuse possé that downvote anything that is positive to the vegan debate.

so you agree that vegan cat food can be palatable. Now your issue is with nutrition?