The catarrhine who invented a perpetual motion machine, by dreaming at night and devouring its own dreams through the day.

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  • Here’s some further info on what he mentions in 4:20 and 5:00, about ōs vs. ŏs and the asymmetrical vowels system.

    Latin had two sets of vowels: long /ā ē ī ō ū/ and short /ă ĕ ĭ ŏ ŭ/. And all Romance languages got rid of that length distinction (some redeveloped it like Lombard, but the “old” system was gone). However, how they did it was different, following mostly three different patterns:

    Latin /ā ē ī ō ū/ /ă/ /ĕ ĭ/ /ŏ ŭ/
    Western European Romance /a e i o u/ /a/ /ɛ e/ /ɔ o/
    Eastern European Romance /a e i o u/ /a/ /ɛ e/ /o u/
    Sardinian /a e i o u/ /a/ /e i/ /o u/

    So the outcome of long vowels and short /ă/ was mostly the same in all of them (in the short term). But focus on the last two columns: Western Romance is lowering all non-low vowels, Eastern Romance only the front ones, and Sardinian… simply kept them where they were?

    Accordingly to this video, Western African Romance varieties followed the same pattern as the ones in Eastern Europe, and the ones spoken closer to Italy (what’s today Tunis) followed the same pattern as Sardinian.

    This might sound odd - like, between Morocco and Romania there’s a whole Mediterranean, why the hell are they undergoing the exact same sound changes? But it actually makes sense when you remember that sound changes don’t spread instantaneously. And that those vowel systems are not the result of one, but three sound changes:

    1. Front vowels get slightly centralised; so /ĕ ĭ/ go from [e i] to [ɛ ɪ]. Eventually they settle down as /ɛ e/.
    2. Other vowels get slightly centralised; so /ă ŏ ŭ/ go from [ä o u] to [ɐ ɔ o]. Eventually they settle down as /a ɔ o/ (with /ă/ merging back with /ā/).
    3. Long vowels get shortened; so /ā ē ī ō ū/ go from [ä: e: i: o: u:] to [ä e i o u], merging with the short vowels.

    Change #1 was likely a pre-requisite for change #2: unless a dialect centralised the front vowels, it wouldn’t centralise the back vowels. Change #3 was independent of the other two, but once it happened it blocked the centralisation.

    Now, let’s say that changes #1 and #2 happened in the Italian peninsula. And that #3 would happen way to the south, like Sardinia or [what’s today] Tunis. Then those changes start spreading out.

    Once #3 reaches the Western European dialects, #1 and #2 already happened; so they centralised all the short vowels. However, neither #1 nor #2 had any chance to develop in Sardinia or Tunis, as #3 happened rather early in those places.

    But what about places far away from both Tunis and Italy? #3 would eventually reach the Latin spoken in those regions; late enough so #1 happened, but early enough to prevent #2. That’s why Mauritanian Romance, Balkans Romance, and potentially Mozarabic* ended with an asymmetrical vowel system.

    *“Mozarabic” aka Andalusi Romance is a catch-all for the indigenous Romance varieties from Southern Iberia. Eventually replaced by the varieties spoken up north in Reconquista times.










  • That’s some great read.

    Those muppets (alt right talking about antiquity) are a dime a dozen. You see a lot of them in 4chan, too. They look at the past with a “the grass was greener” mindset, cherry picking stuff to justify their political bullshit, without a single iot of critical thinking.

    And they usually suck at understanding the past, as their cherry picking doesn’t allow them to get a picture of how and why things happened. They obsess over the Roman Empire and Sparta, but when you talk about the Republic or Athens they go into “lalala I’m not listening lalala” mode - because both contradict their discourse of “we need a strong rule, like people in the past, to fight against degeneracy”.

    They’ll also often screech if you mention why Octavius adopted the title of “imperator” (emperor) instead of “rex” (king). Because guess what, once they acknowledge why people in Republican Rome saw kings with disdain (kingdom = primitive system and breeding grounds for tyranny), all their political discourse goes down the drain, so Octavius had to “sell” his stupid idea under a different name.

    Don’t tell them about the Aurelian Moors, by the way. Or Caracalla’s familiar background. Or do tell them, if you enjoy seeing them screech.






  • I’m thinking that perhaps the community could/should go a step further, and create another instance to talk about open source and privacy. That would be IMO the best scenario - it would be a great counterpoint to .ml, and it would avoid centralising Lemmy around .world even further.

    (I also feel like this might be better even for the devs. Administrative work isn’t exactly pleasing, and if I had to take a guess they mostly maintain that instance because they need it for the software. But that’s just a guess, don’t trust me on that.)

    inb4: yes, I know - easier said than done. But I feel like it could be a good option.




  • And a heartfelt hi from another A Clockwork Orange fan. I bloody love the book. (And the movie, too.)

    Truth is, I was trying to be simple, so I mentioned the horns/guampas in MS instead. It seems to me that they (you?) consume mate far more as tereré than hot mate/chimarrão. Even some of the folks in Paraná’s third plateau would rather use glasses. (I’m from Curitiba, so rather far from them. The first time I saw it - mate on a large glass, with lemon soda - I couldn’t help but “…what?” It’s comfy in the summer though.)


  • I’ve been thinking about social mechanics in online environments for a few years, and this arsehole filter definitively sounds true for me. I think that it has a twofold mechanism:

    • it’s easier to endure arseholes if you’re one
    • your behaviour sets up the example for newbies

    So arseholes have a higher re-incidence and proliferation than nice people.

    I also think that this applies to assumptive/dumb/disingenuous vs. smart, and entitled/whiny vs. contributive people. If that’s correct then the phenomenon is likely wider, and we could actually measure it for something else. It wouldn’t prove that the arsehole filter is true, but it would strengthen the hypothesis.



  • Even when drinking alone, there are often rituals. It’s the same in spirit for everyone, but the specifics are individual. For me it plays a lot like in a certain song: waiting for the water to heat up without boiling, thinking about life, often watching the sunrise or recalling some dream.

    Perhaps that’s why the Druze would stick with the custom, too. I think that they “get” it - it isn’t just “drinking”, it’s also the introspection that comes with it.

    There are also plenty local differences. For example, the grandpa in the pic has a coconut-shaped gourd, fairly common there in Uruguay; here in Paraná (1000~1500km up north), in Santa Catarina and in Rio Grande, gourds typically have a large lip, like mine:

    The ones that I saw the most in Argentina are from a third style, kind of a middle ground between my gourd and that grandpa’s gourd.Then to the West (Paraguay, Mato Grosso do Sul, and even a chunk of Paraná) you’ll often see people using cow horns for tereré.

    What you drink might also change depending on the place. Even among hot mate drinkers; for example the further south you go, the more roasted is the yerba. It can be also coarse or almost like a flour in texture.