Is this trying to claim that Americans against Trump… Shouldn’t be taken seriously? Aren’t being honest? What prejudiced thing are you claiming exactly?
I see it more communicating this idea that as other countries rightfully discuss the ramifications and impact that a fascist American leader has on them, Americans feel the need to pop in and make it about themselves and seek some kind of validation. Like, okay, cool, how about you go fix your damn fascist country then instead of seeking brownie points?
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Please give me working instructions for fixing this shit. Been protesting and voting for 20 years and shit only gets worse.
A protest in France looks very different than a protest in the states… all I’m saying.
Our police can shoot us dead and people in most of the country will look the other way because law and order, especially if you’re not white. America has been fascist for a long time, it didn’t suddenly start under Trump.
Look at the BLM protests, they were huge, but the sentiment of half of the country was against them and there were many who fantasized about police or vigilantes making the streets run with blood. And in the end the thugs with badges are still well funded and well armed.
And what are you going to do about it?
Our police also are a lot different… ours is just an Abrams short of the miltary.
You understand the guy driving the Abrams is also your neighbour right?
My neighbors are mostly MAGAts. So i dont think they’ll be on my side.
The police in the US largely side with fascists. They in large part become police officers just to have power over people. No, not all police are like that, but there are always a few in every department, and “a few bad apples spoil the bunch” as they say. Police officers who try to stand up to these people get punished for it. The rot goes deep.
You’re right. The cops roll up and start shooting people.
Saying americans dont protest correctly isnt looking at the whole picture.
What the fuck is a correct protest? The only thing that matters is the results.
For a country that loves guns you sure don’t fucking use em unless it involves a school or strip mall. A majority of your country is just complacent.
I know, it’s this majorly explosive issue. What are your feelings about the bomb of serious awareness you’re seeking? That pop ain’t soda today. Would you like something to help the chemistry of your emotions about this? I know there are solutions available to bring a big bang of handling this.
As an American, I truly believe we dont protest correctly. Even when theyre done violently they dont institute that much change. Were too afraid to step on the toes of our oppressors. French protests go fucking hard though. Tough to top their revolution where they paraded the corrupt and rich out into the streets to stand in line for a turn at the guillotine. If you ask me, we need to start getting a little more medieval.
That face when you see acab and fuck 12 spray painted all over Lyon.
It’s almost as if we don’t control the media, social media, or how other people think.
We’re stuck on this stupid train that takes directions from every idiot no matter what their direction is, like “ok now drive off that cliff!”
Not sure how powerless people change that. We’re well past the age of guillotines. At least the peasants of the past shared a common reality. With propagandists and social media we live in multiple versions of “reality” all fighting to be the “real” one…
You hit the nail on the head.
Oh wow its almost like everyone is suffering and people with your shitty attitude are the problem as well.
Dude the biggest impact is on Americans
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America didnt effectively clean their house for 50 years, their house is now so infested with rats that they are coming onto our property and Americans want to be involved in our discussions on our rat problems because they have it worse…
I don’t think that’s usually the message we’re trying to get across. It’s very easy to say “well they elected him, just fix it, its your own fault” because most don’t grasp the reality of the situation from the outside. A large majority of our population does not want this, even those who bought the lies before the election.
It’s not just America’s house it’s a global problem. Saying “Hello, just a reminder that We Don’t Fucking Want This” and “As bad as it looks internationally its much worse domestically” is an alarm bell, not brownie points.
The same guys fucking our country are meddling internationally with yours, but now with official government resources. If you don’t want the same thing to happen, take drastic measures. Ban AfD, cut off fascist media platforms, seize assets, whatever you have to do. As problematic as any of that sounds, risking the alternative is not worth it.
Maybe these Americans should do something about it.
I’m not saying it’ll go this far, but if we have to fight a war and their kid gets drafted, we’re not just gonna not shoot him just because their daddy/mommy disagrees with their president. Unless they’re willing to infiltrate and spy for us, they’re basically insignificant bystanders.
I now look at the American population the same way as I look at the Russian or North Korean populations. They are caught in terrible states and I support those who resist their tyrannical government. I do not, however, think their positions on global affairs have much value as they ought to be more focused on their own terrible government. Hearing Americans tell Canadians how we should respond to Trump is falling on deaf ears.
“Hey Canadians, you should tell Trump to go fuck himself!” “Fuck you I’m not going to listen to an American!”
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One of the biggest superpowers in the world wasn’t captured by accident or from some grassroots stupidity. The same exact playbook is being run in nearly every developed country by the same people. You need to learn from where we failed and stem the tide.
If you don’t understand why that “position on global affairs” is important coming from the people actively being crushed by the domino, I don’t know what to say. I guess we’ll just mutually pity each other’s tyrannical governments…
The world does not owe Americans consideration for their internal politics when their choice acts on the world stage. This is America.
It’s not a Likud genocide, it’s an Israeli genocide.
It’s a Russian invasion of Ukraine, not a United Russia invasion of Ukraine.
It’s not fascist Republican America, it’s fascist America partitioning ‘lesser’ countries and threatening to invade its former allies.
Dude. It’s okay to not be at the front of every line.
Ironically, that’s the point.
Victim blaming. How enlightened.
Americans seeing themselves as the center of the world and primary (or only?) victims here, when American foreign policy is wreaking havoc on the international community. We’re not focused on you, as Americans, because your government is currently trying to fuck us and we’re dealing with that. We can have compassion for what you’re going through, just don’t expect much support as we have our own shit to deal with.
We can have compassion for what you’re going through, just don’t expect much support as we have our own shit to deal with.
That’s perfectly fair. That’s also not the message the meme conveys.
Yes, it is. The meaning of this meme is “ok, you have shit going on, not our present concern”.
Not really. If that was the case, the conversation between Europe and Canada would be about some of their many internal concerns. Instead they are talking about the orange clown. When Americans, the most directly affected victims of this fascist regime’s policies, try to interact amd commiserate about Cheeto Jesus’ bullshit, Europe and Canada give them a “ok cool fuck off” thumbs up.
That’s pretty straightforward.
You also seem to think we’re sitting here just discussing America and/or your president. I assure you, we’re not, we’re talking about how to reorganize our global community to not involve America. America is noted as a former ally, not as a central aspect of our collective future. Canada and Europe discussing new trade agreements only has to do with American as far as they will not be involved in those trade agreements.
You also seem to think we’re sitting here just discussing America and/or your president.
Not at all. I don’t make generalizations about the people of an entire country, much less a continent. I am only commenting on the meme.
Americans are victims to their own government is completely different ways than the rest of the world. Your status as a victim does not grant you access to be a commentator on all other conversations occurring. The is no blame there, only a lack of validation of you being a victim.
The individualistic “me fist” attitude of Americans, no matter how marginalized they seem to be, is infuriating. Do you even recognize and discuss how much global strife is caused to the global south on a daily basis for a century directly because of American interest? Seriously, get fucked if you think anyone in the world should be putting any American’s interests above their own at this juncture of history. With that said, I fully support the international community asylum opportunities and hope they are helpful to Americans facing political persecution.
How have the fascist regime’s policies affected the rest of the world? Sure, the States draconian policies are terrible and we will be standing up to them at an international level, but you want the rest of the world to put you first while your government is being openly antagonistic to us. Are you first concerns not with Russian, North Korean or chinese citizens who still have less freedom of expression than any American?
The irony… https://imgur.com/a/x9GTjqT
Imma be totally real with you boss, our(American) government is trying just as hard to fuck us(the citizens).
Ok, so form separatist factions we can align with on an international level. Otherwise, we’re dealing with nation to nation negotiations. How much have the American people reached out to individually support the people of Iran, North Korea or Russia? Spoiler: not much of fuck all. Why should the international community now do intently care about individual American lives?
You elected a bully and you’re blaming the victims of that bully for not liking being bullied.
I doubt they personally voted for him.
When Germany brings in the fourth reich after voting in the AfD in a few years I’m gonna be remembering this lack of basic compassion and empathy for the americans who explicitly tried to stop Trump.
Hi there, disabled American here.
Any chance I can seek aslyum in the EU or Canada when Trump/Elon cuts off my disability payments, thus leaving me to die, starving and homeless?
I hope so - asylum usually needs to be filed from a political persecution perspective, but probably worth looking into what paperwork you would need to prove your need for asylum now.
Oh, well I don’t have much paperwork left, beyond a pdf of my SSDI payments.
Got assaulted, maimed, lost my job, got evicted, lost everything, ended up homeless for about a year.
Somehow managed to get my social security card and drivers liscense replaced after my wallet got stolen for the third time, roughed it untill I got SSDI payments instated, had to take a greyhound halfway across the country to find a shit tier motel turned ‘apartment complex’ willing to let me rent, that I could afford.
The job that I lost was being a data analyst, db admin, webdev, etc for the largest non profit in Seattle … that served and housed the homeless community.
They didn’t give a fuck about myself becoming homeless, despite me personally knowing half the people that man the phones, despite myself having overhauled the online application for assistance process.
… So anyway, yeah I don’t have any paperwork anymore, beyond debt collectors harassing me for bills run up on my stolen credit cards.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/campaigns/claiming-asylum.html?adv=2425-675252&gad_source=1 I don’t think you could be considered for asylum in Canada as of yet. Generally, you need to be facing persecution from your state, which personal suffering within a state does not quite qualify. I’m not aware of any country that accepts refugees on the basis that the country being fled does not provide housing or healthcare. Not saying we ought not, but that is the truth of asylum systems.
Guess I’ll die, then.
Its taken me over a solid year of doing my own PT everyday to be able to kind of walk for more than 30 minutes without screaming pain.
I dunno, for Canada, I’ve got two bachelors degreea that might help count toward the points system thing as a highly qualified worker, but last time I looked at the scoresheet, wasn’t enough… and I can still only type in short bursts before my right hand and wrist are in agony, so I can’t do any serious computer work, and now I have a 2+ year gap in my job history.
Again, if SSDI gets cut off for me, I will just die.
SNAP is already getting curtailed… and if you don’t have an address, because you have no home, because you have no income, you can’t apply for SNAP.
So I’ll starve, as all the homeless shelters are already at max capacity, and most don’t allow you to stay inside all day, who cares if it’s a blizzard or a heat wave.
America is quickly becoming a 3rd world nation. Person to person I am sorry for your circumstance and hope some semblance of social services still exist there in the coming months and years.
I know that you mean a “shithole” country, but I think 2nd world country is more accurate here
Pretty sure America was never really a first world country, it just seemed that way
…as it rolls down a hill toward the end of cliff.
No, fleeing because you’d otherwise starve is what our neoliberal government calls an “economic migration”.
You’re only a legit refugee when your government is trying to kill you directly, like right now. In that case, you can apply for asylum, but please do so before leaving your country, and allow 5-10 years for processing your application.
Ah… so now we’re not just dividing the people against themselves domestically, but internationally too.
Who benefits from that?
What a fucking stupid meme
Not stupid of you’re trying to support Trump’s efforts to divide the US and its allies.
Like Europe is doing any better
21% of romanians who voted thought someone who said that carbonated juices contain nanochips, which “enter you like into a laptop”, and that someone responsible with the death of 250000-380000 jews during WW2 was a national hero, while also saying that he would fight antisemitism if elected was the best choice
We don’t act like we are one country even though the EU + some other countries act more like one country than the US.
Not saying that we aren’t a mess, but there are vast differences between countries in every sense of the word.
Perfect. Could be a better finger choice but really accurate.
So what should we do? Just kill ourselves for where we were born even though we don’t agree with anything the government is doing? This is the most shit take I’ve ever seen.
Just kill ourselves for where we were born even though we don’t agree with anything the government is doing?
No but talking of the government, there’s some kills to score
And I hope they do, but I’m an out of shape, untrained, financially drained nobody, I’m not going to be the one to pull off saving the world.
Protest in a way that has results?
This meme is stupid and the thread is full of people who say “the Americans should fix it”
Sure let’s go protest and get shot dead by our own new gestapo.
Fuck off.
What we really need is action but we are too cowed.
Every country despises you complacent and dumb Americans.
I think that’s a little exaggerated, but even if it were 100% accurate it’s not like America hasn’t earned the reputation.
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I just want you to take me with you :((((
I have not see this happen, whut?
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Yes, yes, we’ve all read the OP…
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Europeans are the best.
