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    According to the article they might be doing this to further discourage people from bypassing the hardware restrictions for installing Windows 11.

    Don’t worry Microsoft. I am fully deterred from ever installing Windows 11 on any of my current or future computers already.

    They wouldn’t be acting like this if they weren’t convinced that they are in a monopolistic situation that is strong enough to let them get away with it. They don’t seem to realize how user friendly and approachable some Linux distros have become, or at least are making the bet that most of their users won’t discover it. I hope this anti consumer attitude pushes more and more people into giving Linux a try, like it did for me.

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      I’ve been trying to move to Linux for about 20 years, but gaming issues always sent me back to Windows.

      I tried again after hearing about how proton and steamdeck have made it so much easier for most games and it’s true. Been exclusively on Linux on my gaming rig since about September. The only one I couldn’t get working was oddly a little simple indie game, it lagged badly while stuff like No Man’s Sky and Cyberpunk ran fine.

      Microsoft is pushing this at a very bad time, because you CAN game on Linux now.

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        I’ve been trying to switch back to Linux desktop for a couple of years. I’ve been very successful lately with “Pop! OS (nvidia)”, I think this one might finally stick.

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      I really want to make the switch to Linux but all the talk about having to troubleshoot every minor thing makes me nervous. What’s the solution to malware and virus? All of the options and sub options for installing and managing things feels so daunting! Dual boots have the nightmare of windows killing the bootloader, so it’s scary to even try and dip a toe in.

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        Every couple of years for the last 20 years I would download the most popular Linux distro of the day, install it, and play around with it. And it’s mind-blowing to me how far Linux has come with UIs, usability, troubleshooting and customizing stuff.

        Back in the day I spent many hours compiling obscure and dependent code bases just to get my sound card working. Now it’s pretty rare for me to need to do even a fraction of that.

        Also, if you want to play around with Linux you can just download a VM solution like VirtualBox on Windows and then spin up as many virtual machines as you like and install a different iso on each one. Not to mention tinkering with Docker containers via the Docker app.

        In short, it’s a great time to play with and possibly adopt Linux.

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        There aren’t many issues honestly and troubleshooting them isn’t that bad. Malware/virus isn’t really an issue on Linux, your main protection and all you really need is the forethought to not run random bullshit with root privilege. Most mainstream distros have graphical package managers, too. Your best bet is to boot a live USB and play around, check ProtonDB for your favorite games, and then install directly over your windows drive. Or I mean like a virtual machine would also be cool.

        I migrated my whole family to Linux Mint, my grandma even, they all love it. I don’t spend much time supporting them either which is nice, Mint is just really headache-free.

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        but all the talk about having to troubleshoot every minor thing makes me nervous.

        Ah, no, that’s more of a “you can break stuff to learn how it works” thing. And some distros are more hacky/barebones. Just don’t go with Arch, Gentoo or Void as beginner.

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      There are plenty of unsupported CPUs that also support the AI requirements. Basically anything with an AMD Phenom or an Intel Core i5/7 first gen or newer supports these.

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      Weird Al Yankovich has recently published a manifesto about the optimal parameters of modern computers, which are informally referred to as “AI requirements”

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      You thought AI is going to help you?

      No, you need to serve the AI, you need to sastify it’s requirement.

      Real Answer:

      from the article:

      "The coding included hardware requirements for the CPU with the required instructions and a minimum of 16GB of memory. "

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        So MS is upping the required amount of RAM so now there is even less for my browser to hog. Here O was getting by with 32 gigs, guess it’s time to go for broke and get 128.

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      • SSE 4.2
      • POPCNT instruction specifically
      • 16GB of RAM.

      The first two are available on CPUs starting from AMD K10 (Phenom) and Intel’s Penryn and Nehalem architectures (Core 2 and original Core i5/i7).

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        Seriously? The old core i7 870 (not a typo) I have in my closet meets the requirements? Adding the watermark for CPUs older than that just seems mean-spirited.

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          I think there are also some ARM SoCs (now that Windows on ARM is a thing) that don’t meet the requirements, and there are too many systems out there with only 8GB of RAM.

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            😁 I have a MacBook pro with only 2g ram running the newest linux kernel, nouveau and Gnome on Wayland without swap, höhö. Well it runs mostly, it’s enough to stream from plex, tho.

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    I will just wait for Windows 12. The old rule that every other version of Windows sucks still holds up to this day.

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    I’ve just recently moved over to 11, because Windows 10 is going EOL in 2025. I needed to switch at some point anyways, so I might as well get it over with. I’m wondering if consumers can get access to LTSC releases of Windows though. Perhaps some form of enterprise edition, if LTSC editions aren’t publicly available.

    The problem being of course that I can’t move from my precious Ableton Live and I really don’t want a MacBook. Before I installed 11 I tried it under wine, using Bazzite no less. Could’ve gone with a more music centric distribution, but everything points towards it not being stable for live usage - like at all, even with WineASIO. Couldn’t get the Push to register, and the buffer was hammered with just a little bit of processing. So, yeah…

    My old Windows 10 install was Atlas OS, but now I’m trying Revision OS for 11. It must be doing something right for Windows Defender to quarantine one of it’s files. High praise from Caesar indeed. Revision is also a light modification, whereas Atlas OS pretty much nukes all the things - with varying effects and successes. In the end, they are community projects that obviously ruffle Microsoft’s feathers. So, yeah…

    It’s a question of how to make a music workstation by choosing the right windows edition, or how to hack at the system until Microsoft limbs are gimped. Also, I don’t think I’ll need a printer spool. In any case, it’s a pain in my arse that I now also have to find a way to nuke Copilot. That will surely just wreck my buffer absolutely. “But you could use it for music creation”… what’s the fun in that?

    In any case, please list your favourite key reseller sites. I might need to go shopping for something special, and Pro might not cut it.

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      If Linux really, really isn’t an option, you should consider switching to Mac. It’s still really similar to Linux (given it’s unix based), and doesn’t try to screw you over constantly like MS & Windows does.

      I’m in the middle of divesting myself of all Microsoft products, and I will never, ever go back to Windows after the near-weekly horror show that Windows 11 has been. I’m still on Team Linux, but Mac is by far the next runner up.

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        You know, it probably is the time to ask myself: who is the bigger evil? Microsoft or Apple?

        I’ve boycotted Apple products for so long that I can barely remember my white clamshell MacBook… my special little boy T_T I miss it.

        But anyways, maybe if I can’t find a way to make Windows stop being a little bitch I might have to consider moving to a Mac :(

        Unless Ableton ports live and max to Linux, in which case Fedora Atomic go brrrr.

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        A bit more involved indeed. It’s not like I didn’t try. The goal was to get it as good or as close to the performance you get in Windows.

        Again, if you’re just using a mouse and keyboard to compose music, that’s okay, but you’ll put pressure on the Live engine buffer and most likely suffer dropouts - or buffer overruns - as soon as you add a little bit of processing. Juxtaposed to windows, that well runeth dry real quick.

        Realtime MIDI and audio is even harder, because getting midi signals from several USB devices cleanly into wine is not as cut and dry as you’d think. There’d need to be some kind of pass thru on the kernel level to really get some of these MIDI devices working. Perhaps even pass thru of USB audio interfaces might be the ticket. But as is? NGL, kind of limited… and useless for me :/

        Sadness.

        EDIT: I was using the TKG version of wine, but this seems slightly better… might have to give it a retry. Good thing I left 200GB empty at the end of my SSD :P