• geogle@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    I hope no reputable school is doing that badly these days but point taken

    • ornery_chemist@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      My take-home was $1700-2100/mo after taxes and fees depending on whether I was teaching that semester (teaching paid less). We were paid just above minimum wage (at the time $15.50/h, CA MW = $15/h) on the basis of 8 h/day, 5 days/wk, 52 wks/y (lmao). Rent split 4 ways was $1500 ~$1200 per person, and that was the lowest of anyone I knew. UC Berkeley PhD 2022.

      Edit: Checked my admission letter, turns out it was actually $15.50/h. Also got decent health insurance, at least until UCPath fucked it up. Livin’ the high life.

    • acetanilide@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      6 months ago

      When I was working on mine I was making $1800 and rent was only ~$720 for a 2 bed. I think that included pet rent too.

      The mental toll however…(Hundreds of thousands of dollars in insurance claims later, probably more)

      • Pleb@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        6 months ago

        I think that included pet rent too.

        It included the what now?

        • acetanilide@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          Yeah so you have to pay an extra monthly “rent” PER PET (not to mention the extra deposits! Yes plural)

          I was looking at a place the other day. 2 bedroom apartment in a shitty area. I didn’t take notes on all the costs but this is what I have:

          Application Fee: $50 per applicant

          Rent: $1450 $2115

          Security Deposit: $1450 $2115

          Nonrefundable Pet Deposit per pet: $300

          Pet Deposit per pet: $200

          Pet Rent per pet: $25

          No utilities included

          Edit: misremembered the rent by a lot

    • baseless_discourse@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      Unfortunately this is still the case in all the universities I know, especially in fine arts and humanity, many of the positions are even unfunded. Many students need to sublease their living room or live in a single bedroom in a house, with shared kitchen and bathroom.

      I think many less-well-funded students literally cannot afford a studio or 1B, because the rent will be higher than their salary. Even for CS, math, and bio, the rent of a 1B will still be very close to their stipend.

      For reference, I work in the department with the highest pay in my entire school, and my school is an extremely well-funded Tier 1 ~ Tier 2 school in the U.S. I make less than 2k8 after tax, and 1B at the outskirt of my city (40 mins walk to university) cost around 2k2 per month. Of course, an rat-free apartment will cost much more.

      Even for these extremely well-funded departments in extremely well-funded schools, almost all of the PhD students are still paid under the living wage. See https://csstipendrankings.org/ .

      To summarize: of the 60 schools listed,only 1/3 are paying their CS PhD students a living wage. Schools not paying a living wage include Havard, MIT, Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, and many more.

      This is why you see so many grad worker strike in recent years.