• AbsentBird@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      The biggest recipients of government handouts are the billionaires. And how do they repay us? By evading over $150 billion in taxes every year. That’s more than every EBT and WIC program combined.

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        Are these billionaires providing goods and services?

        Are the recipients of EBT/WIC programs providing anything to the market? Anything at all? Granted a sum of them get off the programs and do provide to the market.

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          When I first started my business I had to rely on food stamps to stay afloat for a few months after my savings ran out, but it let me keep trying and now I’ve been gainfully in business for over 15 years. Just anecdotal, but I would have had to give up or starve without assistance.

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            I agree there’s people who do not end up domesticated by government handouts, they just need assistance long enough to land their next job.

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      People dislike government handouts to corporations, banks and the already-wealthy. Taxing Billionaires could pay the entire cost of Welfare four times over.

      AKA, Billionaires are stealing 4x as much money as all of the ‘Welfare queens’ you try to demonize.

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        I demonize welfare abusers who instead of using these programs to get themselves back on their feet, they rather pop more babies for bigger payouts at the expense of American tax payers. These are the kinds of people (regardless of race, don’t come at me with racism) who will easily prove socialism or even UBI would fail, immediately.

        If you don’t like what the billionaires are doing, well… close the loopholes. Even Trump called out Hilary on it, because he knows, she and her friends would never shoot themselves in the foot. Don’t hate the player, hate the game - don’t hate the billionaires, hate the financial policies/laws/regulations and the loopholes that the government implemented and wont change. :)

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          “Don’t hate the player, hate the game” is impossible when “the player” is the one creating the rules of “the game”. Don’t be daft.

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            That’s… how the game is created and evolves. So those politicians who take advantage of these loopholes, along with many other wealthy citizens, call them out. And demand to close the specific loopholes.

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              C’mon now, I said to not be daft. Think this through for more than 5 seconds.

              Call them out TO WHO? Themselves?