And I’d save scum in real life too, if I could!

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    This is why xcom games have iron man mode. Save scumming is so much a known part of the game that it’s considered an extra challenge to play in a mode where you can’t save scum. I love xcom but I’ve never done iron man mode because there are some moments occasionally that are just serious bullshit and I don’t have the tolerance for it.

    Play the way thats fun to you. That’s the point of games.

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      4 months ago

      Not to take from your point (which I fully agree with)…. But doesn’t XCom do an anti scum method of feeding the RNG seed in a way that prevents save scumming?

      I know I’ve tried to scum some hacks in that game that always returned the same value.

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        Sort of. It depends where your save point is. If you’re on the world screen and save before selecting a mission your mission can generate differently when it loads. If you save in mission making the same moves will always give the same results, but changing your moves slightly will cause some different background math and change the chances on a shot hitting, etc. All the enemy groups are generated already if you save in level, so if you get ambushed in some horrific way you can avoid them on reload. I would typically save just before selecting a mission, another at mission start once I’m deployed, and then once more on mission completion. I would rarely use it and eat most of my mistakes, but on a few occasions I would have one of my units get totally fucked by a group somehow hidden one space away around a corner or something like that and then the scum power comes out to save my ass.

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    4 months ago

    games are supposed to be fun! let people have that fun however they want to! :)

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    I play games with cheats so that I don’t have to struggle getting materials, or other annoying things that games do to pad out time. I play games within a small time frame, therefore, I do not want to spend the little bit of time I do have doing mind-numbingly boring shit, and get back to having actual fun. :)

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      4 months ago

      Fuckin right.

      I think they’re called trainers now though! WeMod is a good source

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        YES! I was going to say WeMod, but chose cheats instead, because some games I play require Cheat Engine since WeMod doesn’t have the cheats I’m looking for. Sometimes, Cheat Engine also has more options, and can always be used to make your own.

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          Thanks! Will look up Cheat Engine

          Those of us who grew up on Atari and Commodore games don’t see it as cheats, just a little help with our slightly slower reactions 😂

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    4 months ago

    I did it in BG3 after telling myself I wouldn’t.

    But annoyingly, I’d walk into a room of enemies that I didn’t know were there and just get absolutely shredded, where the whole party would die.

    Or I’d fail a check 4 times and feel like an entire quest line got closed off or that I couldn’t finish a quest because the fight was too difficult. Kind of annoying.

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    Stardew Valley on paper oughta be easy to save scum, but in practice you do so much in a day, it’d be tedious to.

    I definitely would save before risky moves in Morrowind, and would reload when it went poorly.

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    I recently played System Shock 2 for the first time and after some digging, realized the hacking puzzles were pure RNG. Fuck that.

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      4 months ago

      Additional off my chest:

      I’ve never intentionally watched an episode of Rick & Morty, and I never will.

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        So, I know the fans can be obnoxious, I get that, but just hear me out.

        Like you, I wasn’t interested in watching it, then somebody posted this clip on Reddit. I watched it and thought, damn, I gotta check this out.

        Im like 4 seasons behind, and I’m in no rush to get caught up, but maybe someday if I’m bored. If you have some personal vendetta or point to prove, then nevermind my comments, but if the popularity just turned you off, it’s not all bad.

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          I appreciate your assessment and it seems fair. However, there’s something about the writing and characters that I really don’t like and can’t get into.

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            I watched for a while, but dropped it as I liked everything about the show except Rick and Morty. The way those to talk is just annoying between the burps and the whining.

            So yeah, I can relate to not getting into it.

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              I can totally see that. Everybody’s a real piece of shit on that show. I just put it in the genre of Seinfeld or It’s always Sunny, a bunch of assholes being assholes so we can laugh at them.

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              The burps and whining mere diminished once Justin Roiland got kicked from the team for calling underaged girls in Morty’s voice.

              It is a lot more tolerable in the last season.

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          One of the best parts of that episode is Mr. Poopy butthole is in every scene of the intro sequence

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    it depends on the game imo. in the end so what it takes to enjoy it it’s your free time. but it’s also easy to remove the enjoyment entirely, and at some point you are better off just modding what you want in.

    Nethacks a good example of that. permadeath is pretty key to the way the game was designed. restoring a backup save file does help when youre starting out but then why not just enable explorer mode and keep going?

    Or if you’re reloading saves in bg3 every time the dice rolls are bad… why not just get a mod to do infinite rerolls or always roll perfectly?