I have a 3d printer in my car powered by a bluetti eb3a. The bluetti is charged by the 12v outlet in my car while driving. I have a 24v solar panel i want to mount to the roof of the car. My bluetti has only one dc 7909 input. So got a a Y splitter to combine power from the car and panel. But when plug it into the car outlet that turns off when i turn off the car, the solar panel turns on the stereo. Thats not the case with the outlets that are always on. I am worried that i will danage the car electrical system from a 24v solar panel flowing electricity back into the car?

  • justaderp@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Put a 12V to 24V inverter just inside the firewall. This will isolate the “noisy” vehicle power system from the more fragile solar panel and power bank. It won’t be nearly as expensive as an inverter that can survive the engine bay.

    The 24V output of the inverter should be wired in parallel with one or several 24V solar panels, then into the power bank input. In this configuration the vehicle power system and solar system can charge the power bank simultaneously. No action is needed to change between power modes. However, you should have a main cutoff switch, disconnecting all power from the power bank.

    I highly recommend a Victron brand inverter.

    Warning: Direct current (DC) systems present an extreme fire danger. Every wire must be the correct gauge, every fuse the right size, every crimp correct. No piece of the puzzle is difficult. But, one must have all of them to build a safe and reliable system.

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    Sounds like a bad idea unless the power input can handle 2 different voltages into the same place (at once?).

    If it can handle both at once, you could still damage the car by feeding 24v into a 12v output port. It might blow a fuse, or burn up a circuit, or do nothing.

    But it might be possible to install a diode or diodes in the line to prevent power flowing back into the car. Diodes are like one-way gates for electricity, but it would need to be the right kind and rated for the volts/amps going through it

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    Yes, you’d damage the car’s electrical system. First of all it’s not designed to feed in energy through that outlet. It’s made to output energy.

    And most importantly: 24V is way too much. 2 times the intended voltage would fry most electronics. Your stereo, the power steering, airbags, … There is a good margin and car electronics are designed to be pretty robust, but you’re pushing it.

    I think they’re still fine because what happens is your car battery absorbs that extra voltage. But it’s really dangerous. On a sunny day you’ll charge your car battery beyond the 14V or so the chemistry can handle. And at that point it’ll degrade fast. The acid in there is going to start to boil, producing hydrogen, so in addition to a destroyed battery, you’re in for a small explosion if you’re very unlucky. And once the battery is gone it’ll start frying the cars electronics because now there isn’t anything keeping the voltage down.

    Get a switch that exclusively connects either the car or the solar panel to the bluetti. One switch that switches between two things, not an On/Off switch. And make sure it’s rated for the current.

    Edit: Or a relais that toggles between both. It can switch if there’s power on the 12V rail, and connect the bluetti to either or.

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    13 days ago

    The solar panel needs to be used with a charge controller. Connecting it directly to a battery will overcharge and damage the battery. Charge controllers typically don’t like the battery being disconnected while the solar panel is still connected, so don’t connect it to a switched outlet.

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    This is a bad idea.

    Beyond the hostage imbalance, you really need a storage system between the solar panel and device you want to use. Without it, power supply can be inconsistent.