… and why is this community against them?

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    “Why am I being arrested?” from a lot of people on police bodycam videos on YouTube. In almost every single case, it’s been explained to them multiple times and they’re actually just angry as opposed to not understanding. Especially the DUIs.

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      I don’t think this is stupid. cops overstep their authority a lot, saw a video yesterday where a cop arrested a woman for not allowing him to test her tint. in the USA, you are not required to provide assistance to the police in an investigation against yourself, it’s the 5th amendment. they arrested her for “obstruction”, which directly violated her 5th amendment right to not incriminate herself.

      you’ll see many where cops overextend their power and try to bully citizens into following non lawful commands just because the cop feels like bossing people around.

      https://youtu.be/Yj6YXF5qh7w?si=SNZVn9Jkgp_MoNZ4

      so I don’t feel it’s a stupid question whatsoever, if your freedom is being jeopardized with the threat of being placed in a cage, that arresting officer better damn sure know wtf he’s talking about and not basing all this off feelings. cops like to do what they want, even when proven wrong, and they get away with it without consequences, so why would they care about actual law when they can make shit up and later go “oops”, while leaving people in their wake with lots jobs, children taken from them, property damaged, etc.

      just because the cop said you were being arrested for panhandling, that’s not the correct punishment for that. cops just threaten with arrest to get what they want. there is a reason the phrase “you can beat the ticket but not the ride” exists. people don’t want to spend a night in jail because a cops ego was bruised, but happens.

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        You can’t interfere with an investigation. Refusing to let them test your tint is not valid under the fourth (NAL). It applies to not providing them information.

        Example (NAL): You don’t have to tell them your name. They can charge you for obstruction, but if you have the means to fight it, I think that would be a beatable charge.

        My example is people who scream why five hundred times in the backseat after failing a field sobriety test or deliberately trying to run (or other cases when there’s obvious reason for the arrest). This is very different from contesting, such as the college student athlete who is suing a department because an officer power-tripped and arrested him when he was obviously fine / not impaired.[0]

        [0] https://reason.com/2024/02/14/iowa-cops-arrested-a-sober-college-student-for-driving-intoxicated-his-lawsuit-is-moving-forward/

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      But you see it’s perfectly acceptable to drive into a lamppost and have a blood alcohol level of 0.7. The police have just been unreasonable.

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        sometimes it is very clear they fucked up, many times not. existing while black is a serious issue that cops use against citizens all the time.

        I recently got pulled over for flipping off a cop for blaring his horn at me when I changed lanes, with plenty of time and space and blinker. he drove past and then stopped when I flipped him off on the highway and backed up to get off the exit to follow me. there were no lights, just a crazy man yelling at me through his passenger side window, driving a Kia minivan. I told him to fuck off and kept going. he follow me into a parking lot and THEN put on lights.

        I got out expecting to defend myself from a road rager. he made up some shit about me not obeying his right of way and made up a ticket, when in reality his ego was bruised for getting flipped off. I got it all on dashcam and phone. but there will be no punishment for him being an ass hole to citizens, he probably won’t even come to court which is next month.

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          I was more thinking just internationally. Not everyone is American.

          Generally speaking in most parts of the world they’re doing an okay job and the person has just been an unreasonable dick.

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            I agree with that, most cops outside of USA you can have a conversation with like a normal human. in USA, they are ALWAYS right, even when they’re wrong, their goal is to ticket/arrest you, not listen or see what is actually going on. they’re more of a nuisance than an asset.

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      I’m not sure you understand that they’re trying to make the cops misstep themselves into an illegal arrest. Maybe I just watch a lot of 1st amendment auditors while you watch crackheads on YouTube.

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        Maybe I just watch a lot of 1st amendment auditors while you watch crackheads on YouTube.

        They’re the same picture like 9 times out of 10.

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          I disagree entirely. The difference is night and day and cops need to learn how to see it.

          Maybe I should be a cop, but you couldn’t really pay me enough and I couldn’t fix anything from the inside.

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        That’s exactly it. I watch Audit the Audit on occasion, but I mostly watch streams that are background noise rather than those that will get me upset at abuse of power. The funny thing is that I’m highly mistrustful of police. I just accidentally found out that I enjoy things like car chases when I ran out of new content during the pan and started watching dashcam videos out of desperation. They’re better than reality tv because they are actual reality with no script.