cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695

After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…

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    Sorry, what? Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space). I have Signal and WhatsApp on my phone for my international friends, but I use texts to communicate with US friends because RCS works with everyone and it’s integrated much better into my phone, watch, etc. than any app can be without an absurd amount of permissions given to the app.

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      Not sure if you’re joking, but Americans use texts because they’re free and the ability to use them comes preloaded on the phone (no need to download something that takes up more space).

      The entire rest of the world doesn’t whine about such things and just uses a 3rd party messenger that works the same across all platforms.

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        You’re the only one whining. People use SMS in the US because it’s free and completely interoperable with every other phone. If you send someone an SMS you know with great certainty that it will be received. Bragging about everyone using Meta to communicate is not the dunk you think it is.

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          You’re the only one whining.

          No, I’m actually very amused by Americans’ unwillingness to install a proper messenger and whine about green and blue bubbles.

          Bragging about everyone using Meta to communicate is not the dunk you think it is.

          The only messengers I mentioned by name were Signal and Telegram. You must me have confused with someone else.

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            No, I’m actually very amused by Americans’ unwillingness to install a proper messenger and whine about green and blue bubbles.

            No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.

            The only messengers I mentioned by name were Signal and Telegram.

            While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it, which is exactly why its an insufficient replacement for SMS. It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.

            Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.

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              No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.

              All those stubborn Americans do that, whether they spell it out all the time out not.

              While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it

              Not with the attitude to refuse to install 3rd party messengers in the first place.

              It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.

              In different regions around the world, different messengers are the norm (for example Line in Japan). Only Americans are zealous defenders of archaic SMS.

              Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.

              Lolno.

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                whether they spell it out all the time out not.

                Okay so you admit you were just fabricating this argument?

                Not with the attitude to refuse to install 3rd party messengers in the first place.

                It doesn’t matter what your attitude is.

                In different regions around the world, different messengers are the norm (for example Line in Japan)

                Do you live in Japan?

                Only Americans are zealous defenders of archaic SMS.

                Once again, you’re fabricating arguments. No one is defending SMS. But it’s the only method that gets the job done 100% of the time, regardless of what apps are installed on your phone.

                Lolno.

                Bruh it doesn’t even have E2EE…

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                  Okay so you admit you were just fabricating this argument?

                  No, because it’s a real argument.

                  Do you live in Japan?

                  Completely irrelevant where I live. I made a random example from around the world that shows how non-US societies don’t cling to SMS.

                  No one is defending SMS. But it’s the only method that gets the job done 100% of the time, regardless of what apps are installed on your phone.

                  That’s how defending SMS looks like. SMS, the true work horse. 🙄

                  Bruh it doesn’t even have E2EE…

                  Neither has SMS which you and your American friends defend so hard.

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                    because it’s a real argument.

                    It is a real argument no one here was having

                    Completely irrelevant where I live

                    It’s not, when we’re discussing what platform you’re referring to. Given that you’re refusing to disclose that platform as well as the country you live in, I’ll take that as confirmation that my assumption was correct.

                    Neither has SMS which you and your American friends defend so hard.

                    You’re moving the goalposts. We were discussing Telegram vs. WA.

                    I don’t know why you keep trying to push this Strawman. Is WhatsApp better than SMS? Sure, if the person you’re trying to communicate with is actually using it… If they’re not, it doesn’t matter which one is better in theory because only one of them is actually going to accomplish the goal you’re looking for. Most of us don’t care to have a conversation with everyone we contact about what chat apps each other are using or prefer, we just want to communicate, and SMS achieves that goal without a pfaff. You don’t have this conversation because you assume everyone is using WA, and like I mentioned in my original reply, the fact that you all use Meta for communication is not a flex.

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          I’d still rather use meta tho (which end to end encrypts the content) than unencrypted plaintext shit that goes straight to the government.

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            The fact you think Meta won’t hand over your data is sad. If you think they can’t save your “encrypted” messages you’re delusional. Their business model is selling user’s data. You can take it to the bank they have a backdoor built in.

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              The fact that youre illiterate and you’re hallucinating stuff i never said, is sad. I will address your concern however.

              If you think that they are actually not encrypting the message content, then you’re a conspiracy theorist. They have thousands of other ways to track the user and give metadata to law enforcement. There is no need for them to lie about protecting the messages, as none of the regular users care about that. They had more than enough users of Messenger even before it was E2EE.

      • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Australia checking in.

        Everyone can send and receive SMS. It’s always the primary /default contact method.

        Close friends can be contacted via whatever third party app but there’s no single platform everyone uses other than SMS.